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Buy GeForce GTX 1080 Ti or GeForce RTX 2080

kisserik93 said:
I do not know whether the premium is worth it
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Depends how much £140 GBP means to you. In the "Silly to buy 1080 Ti" thread I listed the points that favour the 2080. 1080 Ti really only attractive on price but it's too high still for last gen.
I personally think 8GB is enough for now at 1440P. By the time that memory is fully utilised you'll likely need a faster GPU anyway, IMO.
In FC5, a fairly recent game, if I run the benchmark I see usage of just over 3GB at 1440P using settings that give 71FPS (1070 Ti)
 
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DarrenM343 said:
Depends how much £140 GBP means to you. In the "Silly to buy 1080 Ti" thread I listed the points that favour the 2080. 1080 Ti really only attractive on price but it's too high still for last gen.
I personally think 8GB is enough for now at 1440P. By the time that memory is fully utilised you'll likely need a faster GPU anyway, IMO.
In FC5, a fairly recent game, if I run the benchmark I see usage of just over 3GB at 1440P using settings that give 71FPS (1070 Ti)
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It's hard to decide.
There must be some decisive thing to help choose.
 
This is why I'm looking for a used 1080 Ti, the price difference between new 1080 Ti's and 2080's isn't the biggest and if DLSS ends up in the games you play and offers good IQ/decent performance increases it might pain you if opt for the 1080 Ti. This is why I'm looking second hand, increasing the price margin between the two makes it a no-brainer, and if you're keeping the card for 2 years then I'd say it makes even more sense.
 
kisserik93 said:
It's hard to decide.
There must be some decisive thing to help choose.
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2.5 years further R&D should help you decide? You know you're getting a new GPU that is at least as good as the 10080 Ti..
Worth remembering too that a few average and low FPS bar charts does not tell a real world picture about how the games feel to play. Not all further R&D will be reflected in a simple few stats.

To me a £130-140 difference is an easy decision (2080), but it does depend on what that £130 means to someone.
As Kirby said,another option could be a used 1080 Ti but problem with used GPU's is they're often overpriced too IMO. Would need to be more like £400 to appeal to me, a bit more if a recent card..
 
Why would you want to pay £130 more for the same performance knowing that in a years time there will be a replacement on 7nm?

And it's not a question on whether 8gb is enough it's a question of rewarding Nvidia for putting 8gb on a £800 card.

Those new features that are not available today are not going to do much anytime soon due to mass market penetration being impossible as only two cards can do DLSS and RT and both those cards are out of reach for the majority.

All those people with 9 and 10 series cards plus AMD users are out of the loop so do you think that developers are going to make those features a high priority?

Consoles have the greater importance and dictate PC gaming on a whole and will do for the foreseeable future.

I would save my money for the next iteration when these features are ready and the cards get the real performance gain that we should have seen today.
 
DarrenM343 said:
2.5 years further R&D should help you decide? You know you're getting a new GPU that is at least as good as the 10080 Ti..
Worth remembering too that a few average and low FPS bar charts does not tell a real world picture about how the games feel to play. Not all further R&D will be reflected in a simple few stats.

To me a £130-140 difference is an easy decision (2080), but it does depend on what that £130 means to someone.
As Kirby said,another option could be a used 1080 Ti but problem with used GPU's is they're often overpriced too IMO. Would need to be more like £400 to appeal to me, a bit more if a recent card..
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I prefer a 2080. But an 8 GB VRAM is worried. If there were 11 in it, then I would not have thought about anything.
 
kisserik93 said:
I prefer a 2080. But an 8 GB VRAM is worried. If there were 11 in it, then I would not have thought about anything.
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I don't think you need to be concerned about 8GB at 1440P.

@Davanius makes a few fair points like do you really need an upgrade at this point? Forget about 7nm tho as we really don't know for sure when those will land. I suspect 2020 to be honest and they'll tie with with the 2 year release cycle. The 2080 is a better card tho. It's as fast as.....but with the potential to be a good amount faster, don't forget that aspect. Additional new features, 2.5 years futher all round R&D. THat's one of the beneits to buying a future facing card too. The 1080 TI is now limited looking ahead. NV will be putting more effort into everything 20 series.

I keep saying but a 1080 Ti around £500 would be more appealing :).
Seems like some of the devs are really excited about RTX. It may be early days but it would be nice to have a new GPU with that tech available, even if just to get a taster for it IMO.
NV know most really want the 2080 Ti, especially with RTX as that card is going to be the one that can put it to use the best. NV also knows those with a 1080 TI wont upgrade to less than a 2080 TI :)
 
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DarrenM343 said:
I don't think you need to be concerned about 8GB at 1440P.

@Davanius makes a few fair points like do you really need an upgrade at this point? Forget about 7nm tho as we really don't know for sure when those will land. I suspect 2020 to be honest and they'll tie with with the 2 year release cycle. The 2080 is a better card tho. It's as fast as.....but with the potential to be a good amount faster, don't forget that aspect. THat's one of the beneits to buying a future facing card too. The 1080 TI is now limited looking ahead. NV will be putting more effort into everything 20 series.

I keep saying but a 1080 Ti around £500 would be more appealing :)
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For £500 you can get a good 4K HDR Smart TV. I don't think £500 for a card going on 3 year old is good money. Maybe if they were 300.
 
DarrenM343 said:
I don't think you need to be concerned about 8GB at 1440P.

@Davanius makes a few fair points like do you really need an upgrade at this point? Forget about 7nm tho as we really don't know for sure when those will land. I suspect 2020 to be honest and they'll tie with with the 2 year release cycle. The 2080 is a better card tho. It's as fast as.....but with the potential to be a good amount faster, don't forget that aspect. THat's one of the beneits to buying a future facing card too. The 1080 TI is now limited looking ahead. NV will be putting more effort into everything 20 series
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That's what worries me though.

This whole launch is iffy with features not available, reviewers who are known to favour Nvidia advising not to buy or at least wait.

I have no problem with these cards except the value.

The differentiating factor between the 1080ti and the 2080 are those features that are not ready yet, not to mention the extra or missing 3gb of ram depending on how you look at it. Performance is a wash with the 1080ti winning sometimes.

I have a problem with Nvidia's pricing strategy. I don't have a problem with anyone who wants to spend their money on whatever they want.
 
X-Mikuru_Beam-X said:
I don’t think £750-£800 is good value for a card with identical (sometimes less, sometimes a fraction more) performance to said 2-3 year old card.
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Agree,but then £630 for a GPU based on previous gen tech is too expensive too.Best thing is to look at the gap between them and decide whether the extra is worth paying for the gen card. And as said before, the 2080 does have more performance potentialthere looking ahead(20-40% in some cases).
NV have folks well stirred up anyway which may work to their advance too.If the RTX games impress then those 1080 Ti owners will be dying to get their hands on the 2080 TI -the only GPU atm 1080 Ti owners will likely update to.
If people look at the simple question of 1080 Ti vs 2080 if buying new now, it's actually difficult in an unbiased way to recommend an old Ti other than on price. 2080 should be better on price and clear performance but it's still difficult to buy a brand new 1080 Ti at just £130 less
 
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DarrenM343 said:
And as said before, the 2080 does have more performance potentialthere looking ahead(20-40% in some cases).
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With the utmost respect I highly doubt Nvidia are going to wip up 20-40% more performance out of the 2080, that chart they circulated for DLSS is highly dubious! ( especially when you consider their other charts only showing GIGARAYS and Pedoflops instead of real world performance)
 
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