Buying Alcohol

Marky said:
Take my example for instance... if my Dad wants to buy some alcohol, but I was with him, not buying anything just hanging out. They asked me for my ID - not my Dad. Now what if I didn't have my ID on me... that would mean the only reason my Dad couldn't buy what he wanted was because I was standing next to him.
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Great trolling potential though. Just go stand next to some random person at the till who is trying to buy alcohol, if you're asked for ID just say you're not with them, wink at them and walk out xD

kd
 
King Damager said:
They break no laws by not IDing me, as I am not exchanging any money for any goods. If the person I am with chose to then give me the alcohol, it would be them breaking the law. Not the shop.

kd
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I would imagine it's a precaution to stop liability attaching to an employee for intentionally encouraging or assisting an offence.
 
King Damager said:
The more amusing thing is that if you buy online shopping, you never get ID'd. Ahleckz how does that work? From an official policy perspective?

kd
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We're meant to operate Challenge 25 on the doorstep, it's in the training, though I never have nor known any of the other drivers to do so. On the Palm Computer that you sign, there isn't an specific option to select if we need to refund and take away booze.
 
Nerusy said:
If it comes to that one can require for manager to comer over and have a chat with said person. Unless you get an absolute plonker he will allow the purchase with just ID from the "adult".

All this carding business is a result of strict laws in supermarkets, there was a woman in her 30s who g ot ID'ed for wine in front of me once, the cashier afterwards was explaining how ridicules it is how they have to card anybody and that their employer highers people to make random checks and if the cashier does not ask for an ID he is fired on the spot.
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Spot checks are carried out but these are generally done by Trading Standards.

Nobody can be dismissed on the spot for failing a spot-check, normal disciplinary procedures in accordance with employment law must be followed.
 
It happened to me with my dad before when I was 17. We did a big shop, he got himself some cans to drink later on as they were on offer. They refused to serve him the alcohol so we just left the £90 worth of shopping on the till and went home.
 
Hate the law, not the till operator.

If I worked on tills or somewhere where this was required, I'd certainly be more concerned with not gaining a criminal record and fine, rather than if someone is inconvenienced.
 
Janesy B said:
You're not allowed to buy alcohol if you spell it wrong in thread titles.
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I asked a mod to change it. They're being slow today.

Impressed it took that many posts for anyone to mention it though :p

Clarkson said:
Hate the law, not the till operator.

If I worked on tills or somewhere where this was required, I'd certainly be more concerned with not gaining a criminal record and fine, rather than if someone is inconvenienced.
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What's the law to hate?

kd
 
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It's illegal to sell alcohol to anyone who you know will pass it on to someone under-age, or you have the suspicion that they will. If a business gets caught selling alcohol to someone that is potentially under-rage without IDing, or selling to a person with a minor that they could be buying it for, they're breaking the law and will suffer a hefty fine; no business wants that.
 
I've had it a few times and just showed ID but I got asked for ID in a pub in Glasgow which I met my gf in like twice a week for a few weeks. We got asked for ID when ordering two cans of irn bru...as I didn't fancy a beer that night.

End result is I don't go there now as they decided on the one day I wasn't going full retard they didn't want me there.

To be fair the staff are living in fear basically so I don't blame them.
 
bJN said:
It's illegal to sell alcohol to anyone who you know will pass it on to someone under-age, or you have the suspicion that they will.
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Surely the answer to that is to bury your head in the sand?

(I'm still disgruntled about being IDed half way through a pint in my local about a year ago!).
 
just wandered down to the shops and got a couple of bottles of alcohol

Why do people say i was buying "alcohol"

Are you both Bio-Chemists, Medical students or building V2 rockets? What is wrong saying Cider or wine or a 4 pack of Special Brew?

Yeah i know its just my problem and i should get out more but it realllllly reallly bugs me.

:) carry on
 
bJN said:
It's illegal to sell alcohol to anyone who you know will pass it on to someone under-age, or you have the suspicion that they will. If a business gets caught selling alcohol to someone that is potentially under-rage without IDing, or selling to a person with a minor that they could be buying it for, they're breaking the law and will suffer a hefty fine; no business wants that.
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Says where?

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/engla...faq_family_legal_age_drinking_and_smoking.htm

The law on the age at which you can drink alcohol is complicated. Before the age of 18, you are not allowed to buy alcohol in pubs or shops, drink alcohol in pubs or outside in public places. It is also unlawful for anyone else to buy alcohol for you if you are under 18 and the drink will be consumed in a pub or public place.

However, if you're aged 16 or 17, you are allowed to drink wine, beer, or cider (but not other alcohol) with a meal in a restaurant, hotel or part of a pub set apart for eating meals. You can only do this if someone aged 18 or over is with you at the meal and buys the alcohol.

Any child aged five or over can drink alcohol at home or on other private premises but it is usually against the law to give alcohol to a child under five.

It's illegal to sell cigarettes, tobacco or cigarette papers to anyone under 18, but it is not a criminal offence for a person under 18 to smoke.

Smoking is banned in all enclosed public places and workplaces, whatever your age.
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Yes it's illegal to buy alcohol for someone else, but if you do it seems the buyer has committed the offence by giving the alcohol to the child. The seller has sold the alcohol to the legally aged person...

Efour2 said:
just wandered down to the shops and got a couple of bottles of alcohol

Why do people say i was buying "alcohol"

Are you both Bio-Chemists, Medical students or building V2 rockets? What is wrong saying Cider or wine or a 4 pack of Special Brew?

Yeah i know its just my problem and i should get out more but it realllllly reallly bugs me.

:) carry on
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For fear of the word 'cider' resulting in judgement :p despite it being the Gf buying it :p

kd
 
Efour2 said:
just wandered down to the shops and got a couple of bottles of alcohol

Why do people say i was buying "alcohol"

Are you both Bio-Chemists, Medical students or building V2 rockets? What is wrong saying Cider or wine or a 4 pack of Special Brew?

Yeah i know its just my problem and i should get out more but it realllllly reallly bugs me.

:) carry on
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You clearly have too much time on your hands to be worrying about such simple things :p Where do you draw the line?

"I'm off to buy some cheese"

"CHEESE?! WHAT TYPE OF CHEESE?! AHAHAHAHAHA Aaaaahhh I've clearly gone mental."
 
Clarkson said:
Hate the law, not the till operator.

If I worked on tills or somewhere where this was required, I'd certainly be more concerned with not gaining a criminal record and fine, rather than if someone is inconvenienced.
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This. Even then, don't necessarily blame the law. It's only in place because people supply alcohol to minors - if anything, hate them

- GP
 
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