Bye bye Greg Clark

I watched this earlier and it was a car crash from start to finish. His position was already hanging by a thread after his true involvement in project big picture came to light. It was an impressive feat for the man running the FA to **** off literally everybody involved in English football and the writing was on the wall for him when Rick Parry and or members of the big 6 started briefing against him in the last few weeks.

It's quite ironic that during the questions he was actually asked about the **** he was getting in the media and he batted it away, saying something along the lines of he doesn't care about bad PR, running English football was all that mattered. Well it turns out that when you make questionable remarks on race, sex and sexuality, you can't really recover from that bad PR Greg.
 
Pretty sad but that is the way of the world these days. Someones negative interpretation means more than someones intentions or clarifications. Literally the only thing that he said that was stupid and needed looking at was claiming that being gay is a life choice.
 
You have to try pretty hard to be the head of the FA and to not have learned enough about race to be accidentally using 'coloured' when talking about black or ethnic minority people.
 
Sounds like OP is misconstruing this as given some replies here it doesn't sound like an isolated mistake using a dated term.
 
You'd think the head of the FA of all organizations would (should) be just a little bit clued up on race relations and what is the right & wrong way of referring to people of a different ethnicity, here was a massive politically correct goal and he scored big time! :p

I suspect his replacement will be as clueless as he was about both race and the game.
 
fez said:
Pretty sad but that is the way of the world these days. Someones negative interpretation means more than someones intentions or clarifications. Literally the only thing that he said that was stupid and needed looking at was claiming that being gay is a life choice.
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Lol what? He said a number of stupid things.
 
omnomnom said:
Lol what? He said a number of stupid things.
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In todays world where telling the truth rather than what people wish the truth was, then yes he did. In most careers, certain groups are overrepresented. Saying that is the case is not racist or prejudiced. He used an outdated term for black people and appologised and as I said, his comments on being gay were plain wrong.

In my view thats not enough to lose someone their job.
 
fez said:
In todays world where telling the truth rather than what people wish the truth was, then yes he did. In most careers, certain groups are overrepresented. Saying that is the case is not racist or prejudiced. He used an outdated term for black people and appologised and as I said, his comments on being gay were plain wrong.

In my view thats not enough to lose someone their job.
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it is if you are a public figure or someone that is heading up an organisation that is massively in the public eye. The only person that could / does get away with stuff like this in public service is Prince Phillip and that's mainly because he is almost a corspe anyway.
 
wildman said:
it is if you are a public figure or someone that is heading up an organisation that is massively in the public eye. The only person that could / does get away with stuff like this in public service is Prince Phillip and that's mainly because he is almost a corspe anyway.
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I agree with this.

I assume his role as Vice President of the FIFA is gone to?
 
wildman said:
it is if you are a public figure or someone that is heading up an organisation that is massively in the public eye. The only person that could / does get away with stuff like this in public service is Prince Phillip and that's mainly because he is almost a corspe anyway.
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I don't like the idea that people are losing their jobs for using the wrong language rather than for their opinions or their actions or their ability to do thier job. Especially when the wrong language is changing constantly and when there is little concensus on what is offensive and what isn't. The fact that he used the word "coloured" is the headline everywhere and not his claims that being gay is a choice tells you a lot about the current madness surrounding race.

BAME was all the rage 8 months ago and now suddenly that is an offensive term. Its getting ******* ridiculous. No one is using these terms with the intention to offend so why are we constantly apologising for someone taking offence instead of telling them to **** off and grow up. When the word used to describe a group becomes more important than the issue you are trying to address, things have gone wrong.

If we were talking about a man who is ill equiped to do his job or who has made a mess of it then crack on, thats a reasonable discussion. When were are attacking someone because they used an outdated term for black people they we are being idiots.
 
he is ill equiped to do his job as displayed by the fact he used inapropriate langauge, whether intentional or not. That's the whole point. In his position he can't make those kind of mistakes. You don't have to like it, but that's how it is. When in the public eye you basically need to do it better than the next person. If he was working in a meat packing factory in Bolton this wouldn't even make page 99 of the local paper. However he is the head of the English FA and as such will constantly be under scrutiny, even more so considering the chequered racist past of English football (albiet decades ago)
 
I do agree with everything you just said fez, racism should be people being racist. The growing trend of terminology gatekeeping is ridiculous. As you said, something that was encouraged under a year ago is suddenly frowned on, it's impossible to keep up.
 
Shamikebab said:
I do agree with everything you just said fez, racism should be people being racist. The growing trend of terminology gatekeeping is ridiculous. As you said, something that was encouraged under a year ago is suddenly frowned on, it's impossible to keep up.
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not really, it's no different to the contiunal changing requirements in a whole llittany of industries. If you are an <insert specialist job role here> and you don't or can't keep up with the changes required for you to do your job correctly you end up losing it. This is no different, people just like to think it is because of "feels". He was ill equped to do his job because he couldn't or wouldn't keep up with changes to accpeted vocabularies to describe a large proprotion of the players playing in his league, ergo he was not fit for the job.
 
Shamikebab said:
I do agree with everything you just said fez, racism should be people being racist. The growing trend of terminology gatekeeping is ridiculous. As you said, something that was encouraged under a year ago is suddenly frowned on, it's impossible to keep up.
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Calling people 'coloured' is 60/70's language, and then tried to back track saying he confused it with other wording he'd use in the states. He's just an idiot.
 
I don't think he meant anything by what he said, it's just ridiculous that somebody in his position isn't clued up on these things. The whole thing was a car crash and showed just how incompetent he was in discussing and dealing with diversity in football. How can you possibly expect to have real diversity in football when the guy running the game's response to a question about girls participation is "somebody told me girls don't like having the ball kicked at them". I laugh everytime I think about that line - it's just so ridiculous.
 
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