Cables and Master Point

[skyhawk]

Hi

Can someone put me straight please, I’ve a few questions hopefully someone can answer them all.

Ok this is the master plan, at the moment I’m running my internet and telephone via Virgin Media optic fibre cable and have decided its time for a change to a different provider.

There is a telephone wire coming into the house which just ends inside a small plastic box, there are no terminals inside the box just the incoming wire coiled up. The box measures 3 inches x 1.5 inches x 0.75 inches deep, it is fixed on the front door frame just inside the house.

I need the master point to be in my study which is at the back of the house some 27 feet away from the entry box at the front door.

What would be the best cable to use from the entry box to where I need the master point, ie do I need
cat 6 shielded, cat 6 ordinary or cat 5 cable, bearing in mind I shall be running the cable under the floorboards and no doubt it will come into contact with power and lighting cables??

Does anyone know of a descent cable because I’ve read reviews on the Screwfix website and people are saying they are having a hells game to fit the various connects onto the end of the cables??

At the moment all my light switches and power socket outlets are brushed stainless steel, is there such an animal as a master phone socket with a microfilter in brushed stainless steel, there will be other telephone points which will need to be fed by the master socket??


What sort of box would I require at the front door ie. what connections would need to be inside it??

The idea is to keep the fitting price down so I intend to run the cable under the floor and fit the master socket and whatever box is needed by the door myself, so when Mr Engineer man calls all he has to do is make the connections at each end and just check all is well when the new hub is fired up.

My thanks to anyone who can help me out, I'm afraid I'm from the era when the nearest thing you could get to a calculator was logarithms and antilogarithms or if you were really cleaver a slide rule

 

[LuckyBenski]

I'm not sure a typical BT engineer would do that for you. They're normally quite particular about sockets and how much fiddling they'll do. YMMV.

I would usually do everything myself and innocently ask the engineer to switch the service on, under the pretence that the modifications had always been there.

Also consider where you're converting from multiplexed signal to your internal signals i.e. where you put the filter. Anything before the filter, I'd use the same type of cable as before which is probably stranded telephone wire.

At the end of the day it's just wire and electrons, but extending 27 feet is risky for signal degradation. So try to keep joins neat and well shielded, and use appropriate wiring (shielded). You might join the cables on a small punch down strip, and any termination to a socket will probably be screw terminals or punch down.

 

[skyripper]

Depends.on how friendly your BT engineer is. Our master socket was in a stupid place next to the front door. If your extension sockets are up to spec, they can hardwire the existing master using jellies, fit a blanking plate and designate the first extension the new master.

Helps if you're paying for their time, whether that's in cash or cups of tea and bacon sandwiches.

Can't say I've seen any chrome/stainless openreach master sockets mind you.

 

[skyhawk]

Hello Guys

My thanks to both LuckyBenski and skyripper for taking the time to reply, I've now decided to give BT a try and they just happen to have a free installation deal going on at the moment and I've checked with them to find out if there would be a charge involved for running the cables under the floor providing I get the boards up myself and they said no that will be fine.

Skyripper I'm not sure if this would do the job of a master socket or not, from what Iv'e read they need a filter and choke in them and to be truthful I havent a clue what's in the one in the picture, it may be totally unsuitable???

My thanks to you both once again

 

[bremen1874]

BT will provide their own master socket.

 

[Distracted]

When i had a new line installed (due to the previous one being disconnected because we had been with virgin for sp long) i told the installer where i wanted the box and they got on with it.

1st floor 3 rooms back. Nowhere near the front of the house where the original master socket had been installed.

I did make sure to ask politely, because i didnt know how much to expect from them, but they were fine with it.

I was prepared to route the thing myself using cat6 cable through the house. Saved me a lot of hassle. They ran the cable from the pole outside, to the house, and around the exterior wall to the room i wanted it in. Very neat.