Camera buying choices (Canon)

James J said:
Yet all of his 3 current lenses will work with a 7D, which has had a massive firmware update. He could even buy a 5D mk i along side the 7D for cheaper than replacing his lenses with nikon equivalents and a D700.
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I haven't worked out the pricing, but I'd be surprised if his current lens line-up wouldn't be next on his list to upgrade anyway. Why use two bodies to do two things when one can do them all with one, but better?
 
OP wants to upgrade his body, choices are 7D, 5Dii, 5Diii, 1Dx.

Telling him to sell up and get a D700 isn't an easy solution, economical, nor he might not want the hassle, nor he may not even like the bodies (ergonomics?). Not everyone wants Nikon. I get on fine without it, are you saying I or all these other people (Lara Jade, Jeff Ascough, Emily Soto), shooting 5Dii should swap over the D700?

Nikon isn't the answer to everything you know and who says they will always be on top or actually on top at the moment? Yes the D700 is better camera than a 5Dii overall for a photographer. And I said ever since it came out is they need a new body like a D700 and everything will be "fixed" because they have a better lens back catalogue IMO (and lets not drag the whole 50 years of MF lenses into it....) and look what happens? A camera better than the D700 has come out call the 5Diii.

So what's the problem? Does the fact that the D800 is on the market makes the 5Diii a camera?

Does the 5Diii on the market makes the 5Dii a unusable camera. The impression you give is you make it sound like its focus system is so bad you might as well use spread cheese to focus on and that the Canon lens line up is unable to focus on anything and if it does, it is so out of focus you can't use it and only Nikon can take acceptable photos. Thousands of photographer disagree with you and they and I have shot successfully with it since it came out. There are other cameras with better AF, this does not stop the 5Dii to focus at all and all of the sudden become a 100% manual only camera.

Leave the Nikon fanboy stuff at the door and answer the OP's question, I don't go into a Nikon thread and recommend someone to swap system, I really don't know why you do this to people with existing Canon gear, i don't think this is the first time either. It would be a different matter if he are starting from scratch, but he isn't.

Please don't make me quote my first post, YET AGAIN.
 
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An Exception said:
I haven't worked out the pricing, but I'd be surprised if his current lens line-up wouldn't be next on his list to upgrade anyway. Why use two bodies to do two things when one can do them all with one, but better?
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Not many people, but I was just proving a point :)
 
An Exception said:
Which are they?

I'm not a lens expert, and have only researched the focal lengths relevant to me.

14-24G > Any Canon wide angle
24-70G > 24-70L
70-200L mkii > 70-200G VRII (not much in it)
35G > 35l (not much in it)
85's Can't call it.
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Canon don't do a 14-24 so what are you comparing it to?
Nikon's 16-35 is only F/4, I like my lens with filters so 14-24 is out, and Nikon's 16-35 is too slow.
70-200, don't care, don't shoot that focal length.
35 - i love mine
85 - I like 1.2

There! :p
 
At the end of the day, it is all much of muchness, there are pros and cons to each system. Hence throwing in the Nikon stuff to him, when he has Canon is utterly pointless.
 
Raymond Lin said:
OP wants to upgrade his body, choices are 7D, 5Dii, 5Diii, 1Dx.

Telling him to sell up and get a D700 isn't an easy solution, economical, nor he might not want the hassle, nor he may not even like the bodies (ergonomics?). Not everyone wants Nikon. I get on fine without it, are you saying I or all these other people (Lara Jade, Jeff Ascough, Emily Soto), shooting 5Dii should swap over the D700?

Nikon isn't the answer to everything you know and who says they will always be on top or actually on top at the moment? Yes the D700 is better camera than a 5Dii overall for a photographer. And I said ever since it came out is they need a new body like a D700 and everything will be "fixed" because they have a better lens back catalogue IMO (and lets not drag the whole 50 years of MF lenses into it....) and look what happens? A camera better than the D700 has come out call the 5Diii.

So what's the problem? Does the fact that the D800 is on the market makes the 5Diii a camera?

Leave the Nikon fanboy stuff at the door and answer the OP's question, I don't go into a Nikon thread and recommend someone to swap system, I really don't know why you do this to people with existing Canon gear, i don't think this is the first time either. It would be a different matter if he are starting from scratch, but he isn't.

Please don't make me quote my first post, YET AGAIN.
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I just watched a Jasmine Star tutorial, and even she talked about the difference the 5diii has made to her photography, simply due to the improved AF.

As for changing systems, he almost is starting from scratch, the only thing that maybe wouldn't be worth upgrading is the 430exii.
 
An Exception said:
I just watched a Jasmine Star tutorial, and even she talked about the difference the 5diii has made to her photography, simply due to the improved AF.

As for changing systems, he almost is starting from scratch, the only thing that maybe wouldn't be worth upgrading is the 430exii.
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She shoots weddings, OP wants to shoot portraits and landscapes...
 
Raymond Lin said:
Canon don't do a 14-24 so what are you comparing it to? Any wide angle you can put against it.
Nikon's 16-35 is only F/4, I like my lens with filters so 14-24 is out. It does have filters, even 10 stop filters, they are just expensive.
70-200, don't care, don't shoot that focal length. Me neither at the moment
35 - i love mine Of course
85 - I like 1.2 Who doesn't

There! :p
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Thank you everyone for the replies - it seems that both have their merit. I'm sticking with Canon because A) The Mrs will be having my 550D so it makes sense to stick to the brand and B) Dad has just retired and taken up photography and has bought a Canon (And he keeps looking at expensive glass that I can borrow ) So there is method to the madness - Unlike my AMD fanboism :p

So just say I did go for the 7D - what glass would you pair it with?

Would you still get the 24-105 f4 L? The two together come out at around £1900 leaving me £600 from my budget. The 7D is also offered as kit with the EF-S 15-85 mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM for £1650.

Either way I will need to factor in a couple of CF cards

Sorry to take so long to get back on here - I was in work when I posted and have just got home. :rolleyes:
 
What sort of photography do you want to do mate? The 24-105L is a walkabout lens imo which can lend itself to a few different types of photography. If you want more reach, take a look at the 70-200L range. Even the entry one (70-200L F4) is pin sharp even though it lacks image stabilisation. If you want a macro lens, the canon 100mm F2.8 (NONE IS) is about £300, whilst the L version (has IS) is around £550 ish.

If you are really interested in wildlife and need range, get a sigma 150-500 f5.6-6.3 lens as on a 7D that will give you some titanic reach! Can be had for around £600. I'd DEFINITELY look at the second hand market though buddy as you'll save a fortune, unless you are buying on credit, then I'd avoid some of the high street shops as they give poor value for money.
 
James J said:
What sort of photography do you want to do mate?
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I like to shoot portraits and landscapes - haven't tried macro at any point but I guess my kids would love pictures of giant spiders etc so might have a look at that in the future. I think the 7D is sounding more versartile especially as I am no pro :p
 
Alz_D said:
I like to shoot portraits and landscapes - haven't tried macro at any point but I guess my kids would love pictures of giant spiders etc so might have a look at that in the future. I think the 7D is sounding more versartile especially as I am no pro :p
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I highly recommend Canons new 100mm f2.8L Macro IS USM. I've just got one, and while I haven't taken any world beating photos with it yet, what I have taken is VERY promising. It even eliminates the hand shake I suffer from, almost completely. I love it! Failing that, there's the Canon and Sigma 100 & 105 non IS/OS which are also very good, and reasonably priced.
 
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lets see what examples the OP can show us if they think they need a full frame or high end camera? Have you got photos to show us your portfolio?

It bugs me how people who do photography spends so much thinking that the equipment they purchase will dramatically improve their photos.

Yes there are advantages in the equipment of what can be done (higher ISO, faster FPS and etc) but are there things that your 550D cannot achieve compared to the 5dII?

However if you got the money and you want to go out and spending it, its your choice.
 
I have a Peugeot 306, it get's me from A-B. Should probably cancel my order for a BMW Z4 as there are still things I could learn about driving with my 306. There also isn't any journey the Z4 can do that my 306 can't, besides it won't make me a better driver.

Unless your a working pro, a camera is a luxury purchase, it's not like bread or milk, no one 'needs' a camera. Therefore most camera purchases are bought from peoples 'wants'. Therefore it is a hobby for the Op, and full frame WILL be better than a crop for what the Op intends. It is irrelevant if he 'needs' the advantages of FF because he doesn't, no one does, not even full time pro's as lesser camera's will do the job.
The only aspect of concern is if the Op 'wants' these advantages.
 
An Exception said:
I have a Peugeot 306, it get's me from A-B. Should probably cancel my order for a BMW Z4 as there are still things I could learn about driving with my 306. There also isn't any journey the Z4 can do that my 306 can't, besides it won't make me a better driver.
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That is the best way I have ever seen that point put across anywhere. :)

I do have the money and I do want to spend it :p I know that my 550D is great - I am giving it to the Mrs so will have no camera.

Photography is something that I am keen to spend more of my free time doing having just changed from a high pressure job with little or no time off. I am quite aware that better equipment doesn't make you a better photographer and I can't ever remember saying it does :confused:

My thinking is that as my experience grows then I may need something better than the 550D in the future.

That is why I am leaning towards the 7D and a few more lenses as I think this is more fit for the stage I am at. Thank you for all the helpful replies..
 
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