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Howdy,

I think its time to retire the D80 to the old back up bin,
Really fancying a completely different change after playing with my mates Canon 550D the other day,

From what I've seen Canon lenses tend to be abit cheaper compared to Nikon ones of the same spec although I could be talking poo there as I've only briefly gazed at them,

The lenses I have for the Nikon are 18-135mm (kit lens), 70-300mm Nikkor zoom lens, and a f/1.8 50mm on the way but it was cheap and cheerful, so nothing really flash or un-replaceable.

Video recording would be nice, but not essential,
also a flip out screen for those spine bending moments could be useful :D

Budget is around 800-900 notes and would be looking to buy in the next few months,

If a Canon is suggested, my current needs means I'd like a nifty fifty (f/1.8 or wider) and up to 300mm zoom lens, within budget would be nice but near as would also be appreciated.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions

Peace :cool:
 
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Just noticed how cheap 600D's are, anyone got any experience with them? what's the sensor like?
I only ask the D80's sensor loves to overexpose lol

And as I don't really know Canons,
Whats the difference between, the 600D and Rebel T3i bodies? or are they the same thing? lol

Cheers
 
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Well the 600D is the obvious choice for that money, and it does fit the bill pretty well.

But, remember you'll have to re-buy lenses for the new camera, so the total price is going to be higher...
 
The obvious choice is a D7000 for that budget, it's still about the best non-pro level body available today and there's no need to get new glass.
 
bigredshark said:
The obvious choice is a D7000 for that budget, it's still about the best non-pro level body available today and there's no need to get new glass.
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Agreed 100%. D7000 is the best non-pro crop sensored DSLR money can buy. I'm super envious of my girlfriend's D7000.

The Canon equivalent is more like the 7D (althought he sensor in the D7000 is much better) but I really don't see the point in swapping systems when you have invested glass.
 
I've not tried the 600D, but I have tried older xxxD. I don't think you'll like how it holds compared to the D80 / D7000.

Also if you're considering keeping the D80 as a backup then you'd bee mad to move to another system.
 
It depends on what kind of photography you want to be doing. As has been said before, the D7000 is a fantastic bit of kit and imo there isn't a better crop sensor on the market, though a second hand D300s will fall into your budget as well. I wouldn't jump systems unless there's a very specific reason to do so e.g. video recording, full frame (the 5DC is getting pretty damn cheap) etc.
 
D7000 is the obvious choice, just replaced my D90 with one and I'm really pleased with it. I'm not sure I would bother with the D300s as it costs more and in many ways its not quite as good or does the same as the D7000. It might be worth waiting a bit to see if Nikon replaced the D300s with something as it's probably due to be replaced soon, then again whatever they bring out to replace it will be over you budget and the D7000 is just under it.

Dave
 
cheers all,

I did briefly look at the D7000, and the D5000 for the swivel screen thing,
The only thing that threw me on the D5000 was the fact its a 13.5MP (I think), but its in the same price bracket as the 600D which in my eyes is a much better camera, not to mention being 18MP (self surprise as I've always been Nikon biased lol)

I didnt really conciser the lens aspect as I said, nothings really unreplaceable, the zoom lens is a budget lens and the kit lens is about 4 year old.
 
Forget about the megapixels, they stopped mattering years ago for 99% of people. Low light performance and dynamic range is how sensors should be measured today and in that respect little beats the D7000 in a crop sensor camera. The £3k D3s is 12.1MP, I'd have it over any of those in a heartbeat.
 
The D5000 is the older model of the D5100 which is 16.2mp and has many useful modes + the flip screen stil. Also does HDR shots on the camera and full 1080p recording. I have one myself and really like it as its not as large as older dslrs and comfy on the hands after a few hours of shooting. I'd also go D7000 with your budget as the feature list and quality of that camera is endless!
 
hmmm, maybe I was swayed by the MP of the 600D
I did read somewhere that MP is only a fraction of it, the D80 is only 10.4MP (I think) and it still produces pretty good shots,

I suppose the wise thing would be to stick with Nikon, does the D5000, D5100 nad D7000 have to body focus motor thing?
 
The D7000 has a focus motor, the others don't.

On the Canon/Nikon front, have a look at some details shots at various ISOs on DPreview. Your desire to get a Canon will be quelled immediately.
 
noisy like?
I've herd good things about the newer model Nikons with higher ISO's and less noise,
Although the D80 can only handle upto 400 max for my type of quality
 
More like complete lack of detail. No point having 18MP if the noise filter is just going to smudge your picture.

Have a play here. It doesn't demonstrate the smudging effect as much as some comparisons I've seen, the one I was thinking of is a picture of a red cushion with a lighter red pattern on it. As they turned up the ISO the pattern disappeared on the Canon. It didn't look great on any of the cameras but the Canons were noticeably worse than some of the others (Nikon and Pentax are the ones that spring to mind).
 
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In all honesty, if I was looking to buy a crop sensor camera again, a D7K would easily be my first choice. It's simply awesome...
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If I had to do it all again and go for a crop, that would also be the only choice for me over my D5100. I can go to 800 iso with no loss in quality on my D5100 and only with slight noise at 1600 which can be removed easily in post. The D7000 is better at higher ISO levels and the inbuilt focusing motor would save you a nice amount of cash on lenses.

D5100 can only take AF-S and AF-I lenses and have autofocus working via the silent motor system. AF-D and older are all manual focus only due to having an aperature ring on the lens, which the AF-S system completely removed.

For the price range your looking at, Nikon has vastly better ISO performance than the equivalent canons and you have to spend well over your budget to get a canon camera with the same ISO quality levels.

If you MUST go canon, try get a second hand 7D as the autofocus system is extremely fast and would be ideal for motorsport photography (even better than the more expensive 5Dmk2 infact), otherwise go D7000.
 
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