Can a switched on empty mains socket use power?

Also not cutting off the mains gas supply wastes gas, even if you aren't using it.

I wouldn't trust this gas "engineer" for anything if I were you.
 
I always thought the switch is used to control electrical gate, if you leave it on, the doors are open and the electricity is allowed to come out
 
I always thought the switch is used to control electrical gate, if you leave it on, the doors are open and the electricity is allowed to come out

So what's going on here then?

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So what's going on here then?
ball lightning will form and hadoken strike you to the face
people seem to think electricity can just flow into the air or something.
if theres nothing to conduct it and create thermal resistance then I don't see it going anywhere

until you plug something in theres no circuit? its like taking a battery and strapping to wires to each end, nothing happens unless you put those 2 wires together and then they start to become very hot.

try it with a paper clip and an aa battery :D
 
Came in to this thread expecting a 0.9r=1 style argument. Found everyone agrees that physics is correct and the gas 'engineer' is wrong. Faith in GD partially restored :)
 
That highly depends on what type of device is plugged in. Electronic devices are very efficiently on standby. Older appliances that have a high wattage are often different. I know old CRTs are quite bad for it.

Its estimated that standby devices cost UK house holders approx £650 million a year and and generate approx 3 million tonnes of C02. Hardly efficient or a good use of our money. Knowing this doesn't stop me leaving my TV on standby, although it probably should.
 
A similar thing annoys me in my house. The others turn the toaster off at the socket, as it 'uses electricity' when not used. Does my nut in when I try to turn the toaster on and it won't click in place.

They don't understand the thing on the side of the toaster is a big electrical switch.
 
Also not cutting off the mains gas supply wastes gas, even if you aren't using it.

I wouldn't trust this gas "engineer" for anything if I were you.

Assuming that's a sarcastic comment... Actually, turning off your gas supply at the meter could save gas. The internal gas pipes in your house aren't required to be 100% gas tight!! :eek:

source: I put in all the gas pipes when i refurbished my house and when a gas fitter came round to do a drop test he explained that new pipework must not leak more than 5% and existing must not leak more than 10% - mine leaked 0% :)

(i think the figures were actually millibars dropped during a 2 minute test, but the percentages are roughly equivalent from memory)
 
Its estimated that standby devices cost UK house holders approx £650 million a year and and generate approx 3 million tonnes of C02. Hardly efficient or a good use of our money. Knowing this doesn't stop me leaving my TV on standby, although it probably should.

Considering the amount of businesses that leave massive amounts of lights on, I'm personally not concerned about the amount of CO2 produced by leaving my stuff on standby.

Not to say I'm wasteful, I turn off lights all round the house when I'm not using them and I don't have everything running all the time (it costs money, after all) but I'm not going to start reaching round the back of desks, TV units etc to turn things off just to save a few pennies.

Not to mention the fact that most TVs, set-top boxes, routers etc all rely on being on standby overnight so they can get firmware/software updates.
 
Considering the amount of businesses that leave massive amounts of lights on, I'm personally not concerned about the amount of CO2 produced by leaving my stuff on standby.

Not to say I'm wasteful, I turn off lights all round the house when I'm not using them and I don't have everything running all the time (it costs money, after all) but I'm not going to start reaching round the back of desks, TV units etc to turn things off just to save a few pennies.

Not to mention the fact that most TVs, set-top boxes, routers etc all rely on being on standby overnight so they can get firmware/software updates.

I'm the same, but two wrongs don't make a right :)

However I do know I should turn all this stuff off, I'm just to lazy to do it and saving £100 a year doesn't seem to make it worthwhile.

Perhaps companies should put more effort into turning off power consuming devices.

I also think your last point is a little bit flimsy.
 
Why is it flimsy? Seems like a more legitimate reason for leaving stuff on standby than "I'm just too lazy to do it".

Because it could easily download updates at any time, hardly worth wasting a nights worth of energy for the unlikely event a software update may happen.

And being to lazy/can't be bothered/not worth my time/etc is not at all legitimate its the truth.
 
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