Can somone recommend me a laptop so I dont buy a Mac

Harrigan said:
With core duo you can't use 64bit software. With the turion x2 you can use it if you want to and it takes off in a big way. Might not, but at least the option is there. With core duo you are stuck with 32bit no matter what.

Yonah is being replaced by conroe so that wont be a problem.
 
Merom for notebooks, and as far as i know its not released until quite a while after conroe. I need to get me a notebook before the end of september.

Is your zepto any good?
 
Harrigan said:
With core duo you can't use 64bit software. With the turion x2 you can use it if you want to and it takes off in a big way. Might not, but at least the option is there. With core duo you are stuck with 32bit no matter what.


Conroe (core duo) is as much 64bit as turion , x2 or opty's - what are you talking about?
 
V For Vendetta said:
by the time 64bit OS's and Applications become the norm, newer 64bit chips willbe out making turion etc looking old and slow

People said that 2 years ago when the AMD 64s first came out, I wouldn't bother waiting.
 
Haha sweet, I've just discovered the custom shell paint on the zepto site. It would rule to have a laptop with some sordid giger pic or banksy art on the back.
 
Hamish said:
People said that 2 years ago when the AMD 64s first came out, I wouldn't bother waiting.

Too true, same with dual core as well but to a lesser degree, usefull if you want to encode and game at the same time or do insane multi tasking (which the majority of users dont), for almost anything else though the feature isnt supported, I still havent seen any games or other "big" programs with proper dual core support I wouldnt even be intrested in a dual core cpu like conroe if it didnt outperform a normal cpu in single threaded apps.
 
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If you want to use XSI, ANY dual core will be very useful to you. In 3D applications the rendering performance is about 1.85 times that of the equivalent single core - or in other words your renders will take nearly half the time. I use Cinema 4D & getting a dual core made a BIG difference.
Also, you will want at least mid-range graphics for 3D work, especially if you want to do complex modelling or character animation. 1GB RAM is preferable to 512 as well.
Of course you can probably still do work if you cut back on these but you won't regret paying that bit more. Oh, XSI uses Open GL like all the other main 3D apps I think & this makes NVidia cards a better choice in this case.
 
Depending on what you after in terms of style and what you want it for Ie: Desktop replacement? Games? DVD Playback?

Personally i would get one of the HP Business range, my choice either the NX6125 or the NX8220.

HP are top of there game at the moment.
 
Curiosityx said:
Depending on what you after in terms of style and what you want it for Ie: Desktop replacement? Games? DVD Playback?

Personally i would get one of the HP Business range, my choice either the NX6125 or the NX8220.

HP are top of there game at the moment.


I am currently dealing with them practically daily through work - no way in the world are they anywhere near the top - could be No1 at the bottom though!!!
 
Harrigan said:
No that's Core2duo, the next one. Core "1" Duo was yonah, 32bit. Core 2 Duo is Conroe and Merom, 64bit with various other enhancements.


you learn something every day - i didnt realise there where two different "core duo's "

I always thought core duo only referred to conroe etc

SO I wonder if wily system builders will advertise old stock as "core duo" expecting people to think its conroe when in fact its yonah.........certainly potential for some heavy disappointment ( as intel has branded the two different chips very similarly it wouldnt be trade description fault I would guess)
 
FrankJH said:
SO I wonder if wily system builders will advertise old stock as "core duo" expecting people to think its conroe when in fact its yonah.........certainly potential for some heavy disappointment ( as intel has branded the two different chips very similarly it wouldnt be trade description fault I would guess)

They've got different model numbers, so I'd hope not.
The Core Duo T series are Yonah, The Core 2 Duo T series will be Merom, the Core 2 Duo E and X series are Conroe.
 
tolien said:
They've got different model numbers, so I'd hope not.
The Core Duo T series are Yonah, The Core 2 Duo T series will be Merom, the Core 2 Duo E and X series are Conroe.


maybe you misunderstood me or maybe i didnt say it properly- I was meaning system builders ( ie time / tiny or whatever they are called now) etc etc who wouldnt state T or E or X - they would just say "Core Duo System Sale" or some such in banner headlines

You know what I mean?
 
The only folks putting Yonahs in desktop machines are Apple, and Core Duo != Conroe = Core 2 Duo (with a different logo et al), so it's still not important :p
 
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