can they really tell if its been oc'd?

[Puppetmaster]

dont you void the warrenty on retail cpu's if you replace the cooler, as they already come witha hsf?

 

[fish99]

The real question isn't whether you void the warranty, but whether they are likely to find out you've been using a 3rd party cooler if you put the original one back on. Unless you do a sloppy job they're probably not going to find out. I don't think there's anything particularly immoral about RMA'ing like that, as long as changing the cooler didn't contribute to the card breaking.

If they don't want people using 3rd party coolers they should start putting decent ones on themselves.

 

[Dutch Guy]

I`m asking if a card is faulty (not neccasarily the ops) and it has nothing to do with an hsf removal (then why should the warranty be void just becasue of the hsf removal?

Because when installing the other heatsink you can damage something on the PCB.

 

[Dutch Guy]

dont you void the warrenty on retail cpu's if you replace the cooler, as they already come witha hsf?

A CPU is just a CPU, it doesn't have a PCB with a lot of other components that can break when installing a different cooler.

 

[dale1uk]

If they don't want people using 3rd party coolers they should start putting decent ones on themselves.

Well thats sort of what ati are going to be doing. It was posted on here last week that ati are going to start shipping oem cards with no cooler on so you can choose for yourself what one you wish to put on, just like oem cpu's. There also allowing graphic cards companies to fit their own refference coolers on aswell so it looks as though a lot of different coolling possibilities will soon be on the cards from ati.

 

[Dutch Guy]

Well thats sort of what ati are going to be doing. It was posted on here last week that ati are going to start shipping oem cards with no cooler on so you can choose for yourself what one you wish to put on, just like oem cpu's. There also allowing graphic cards companies to fit their own refference coolers on aswell so it looks as though a lot of different coolling possibilities will soon be on the cards from ati.

I doubt they will sell cards without coolers to Joe Public, they do however send manufacturers cards without coolers so they can fabricate the coolers themselves.

 

[dale1uk]

I doubt they will sell cards without coolers to Joe Public, they do however send manufacturers cards without coolers so they can fabricate the coolers themselves.

My bad, just searched for the post again and your correct, their just allowing manufactures to choose for themselves what cooles go on. Still good news for us though as it gives you more of a choice when buying.

 

[Dutch Guy]

My bad, just searched for the post again and your correct, their just allowing manufactures to choose for themselves what cooles go on. Still good news for us though as it gives you more of a choice when buying.

Very good news, if you want a good quiet cooler now it (almost always) means buying one and voiding the warranty, in the future you can but a card from a mnaufacturer that made the cooler you want.

 

[FishPolice]

The real question isn't whether you void the warranty, but whether they are likely to find out you've been using a 3rd party cooler if you put the original one back on. Unless you do a sloppy job they're probably not going to find out

Yeah that was what I was getting at. It would be a nice cheap way for a manufacturer to get out of replacing a faulty card -just whip off the cooler & compare the paste with the stuff used by the factory. Just wondered if that's what some manufacturers do with RMA'd cards. Seems to be an awful lot of people on here who buy an aftermarket cooler pretty much straight away.

 

[JBuk]

JBuk, it's just the way it is. Doing certain things with a graphics card voids warranty, and those include replacing the stock cooler, overclocking, and BIOS flashing.

I know all this, and i`m not trying to change it , i`m asking why is it that the warranty should be void?

I fitted a coolermaster on my 7800gtx, it was very simple, but i hate the thought that if the gpu was inherently faulty and died then my warranty is void even though its nothing to do with anything ive done (i still took the risk though)

Because when installing the other heatsink you can damage something on the PCB.

Good point, but i could also damage the PCB when fitting the card.
Obviously if you have damaged the card because of your own lack of care, etc, then the warranty should definatly be void.

Seems to be an awful lot of people on here who buy an aftermarket cooler pretty much straight away.

yup
if the gfx companies fitted a half decent cooler to begin with a lot of people wouldnt need to change it

 

[Gashman]

would removing stock cooler to apply some better thermal paste void warranty? i mean thats ridiculous if it does, lol

 

[gacameron01]

if you removed the cooler and ran your graphics card at 100% overclock, you'd burn the puppy out. It's extremely naive to claim that changing anything on the card could have no impact.

 

[Cyber-Mav]

if you removed the cooler and ran your graphics card at 100% overclock, you'd burn the puppy out. It's extremely naive to claim that changing anything on the card could have no impact.

remove the cooler and there is no need to overclock, the card will burn up on windows entry i guess.

 

[SameSuspect]

he meant to remove the cooler so he can change thermal paste. lol

 

[Gashman]

if you removed the cooler and ran your graphics card at 100% overclock, you'd burn the puppy out. It's extremely naive to claim that changing anything on the card could have no impact.

wait a minute, i didn't even mention overclocking, just changing thermal material to get lower temperatures at stock

 

[Dutch Guy]

wait a minute, i didn't even mention overclocking, just changing thermal material to get lower temperatures at stock

Say you removed the cooler, changed the thermal paste to a better one, reattach the stoc cooler but forget to tighten one screw meaning the cooler does not make good contact.
You then start gaming and after 5 minutes the card dies due to excessive heat.

Would you find it fair to get a RMA because you did not install the cooler correctly?


Or you bump off a capacitor when changing the thermal paste?

 

[SameSuspect]

yeah deffinetly, our fault, not theirs

all you would have to do is tighten it back up before getting it rma'd and youl probably get away with it

 

[ACESHIGH]

I hope the OP doesnt have an XFX graphics card.
As a ex-worker for XFX i can say that since March 2006 that they have been adding memory diodes to all their cards. Basically just another small diode attatched to the PCB that stores changes in core & memory clocks. If the card is shipped back it can then be checked to see if their are changes memorized in the diode, if there are, then the warranty is void regardless of failure. Expect to see this added to all other manufactueres in future.

 

[ACESHIGH]

Hopefully everyone will read this post too. Before you see the above stated as the truth in the Inquirer.

Be aware that the above post is a complete fabrication & in now way represents the truth.

 

[pcoltrane]

I'm confused - since it's not true why did you post it?