Can Union Fine Non-Strikers?
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You think they don't?
And I'm not talking about what the law says, I'm referring to what ACTUALLY happens.
What do you think actually happens ref union bullying and intimidation?
Something akin to scientologists?
Another forum junkie who knows nothing.
Why? your paying for advice and support, the way you word it makes it seem like a person loses their human right to have an opinion if they are a union member...
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working for the civil service in Northern Ireland its sort of frowned upon not to be a union member (PCS).
When i first started i was on a fixed term contract and we had a "meeting" with the local union reps as part of our induction. In these meetings once the trainers left the room the union reps basically sold the doom and gloom story to get the trainees to sign up for union membership.
10 years later and i cant think of one thing PCS has done to help. Ive seen union reps noting names of people coming into work on a strike day, be they union members or not, ive seen them refuse assistance to people on disciplinary procedures because they had the audacity to let their union membership slip for a period during their employment.
In northern ireland at least theres very much a toxic atmosphere for staff members not in the union. I think last year we had 5 or 6 strike days, for absolutely nothing.
Contact centres are being closed, pressures on staff worse than ever, frozen pay for almost 5 years despite increasing living costs. Diminishing pensions, people on the same paybands having a 5k difference in salary etc.
It all just leaves a bad taste in the mouth.
When i first started i was on a fixed term contract and we had a "meeting" with the local union reps as part of our induction. In these meetings once the trainers left the room the union reps basically sold the doom and gloom story to get the trainees to sign up for union membership.
10 years later and i cant think of one thing PCS has done to help. Ive seen union reps noting names of people coming into work on a strike day, be they union members or not, ive seen them refuse assistance to people on disciplinary procedures because they had the audacity to let their union membership slip for a period during their employment.
In northern ireland at least theres very much a toxic atmosphere for staff members not in the union. I think last year we had 5 or 6 strike days, for absolutely nothing.
Contact centres are being closed, pressures on staff worse than ever, frozen pay for almost 5 years despite increasing living costs. Diminishing pensions, people on the same paybands having a 5k difference in salary etc.
It all just leaves a bad taste in the mouth.
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It happens, but it's rare (rarer that bullying and harrasment by employers) and Unions have fairly robust measures to deal with it. Things can always be improved thought.
FYI - I consult for NAHTEdge and EDAPT - so my experience isn't just with "militant" striking unions (those two have a policy of no industrial action).
Use a solicitor then if that's all you want.
It's quite easy to make sure your union doesn't strike if you don't want them to - attend members meetings and campaign agaist strike action, build a co-alition and find another way of resolving the dispute - don't rely on HQ to do the work for you - you're the one on the ground, you know what's right for your workplace.
I've found the members who moan about strike action are usually the ones that are most apathetic and don't engage in the unions democratic processes. The "non-strikers" are usally the laziest.
Do you think those changes would be:
A: more severe
B: the same
C: less severe
if the union wasn't there?
I'd go for option A.
It's funny with peoples view on unions - some think unions are useless and others think they have some kind of magic wand to fix everything and act all suprised when not everything can be fixed.
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the answer to your question is a simple no they can not fine you at all but you soon will find out who your friends are.
the unions are not what they used to be like in the old days.i can remember quite a few year's ago our union wanted us to go out on strike when the company hadn't got much work on at the time (wtf what was they thinking off) we told the union to go and walk ,we will hit them when the work came back to production levels and they want us to work overtime (work to rule) this way it hit the company big time
and gave in and for those who broke the work to rules got some stick for months