Can you output 1080p from an old non HDMI 360 ?

juno_first · 14 Nov 2010 at 22:10

I have an old xbox 360 which does not have a HDMI output, loaded with April 2010 dashboard.
My TV supports resolutions up2 1080p 24/50/60hz & I tested a friends Elite xbox with HDMI & it worked at 1080p, so the TV is ok.

Im using a VGA cable atm but this only allows resolutions up2 1360x768 :confused:

Any resolution selected above that & the TV goes blank with an error message saying 'out of range'.

Is there an adapter which provides a HDMI output so 1080p will work?
Also needs optical too.

thanks

Macky · 14 Nov 2010 at 22:14

I'm pretty sure that no, they cannot.

MOOGLEYS · 14 Nov 2010 at 22:18

You should be able to do 1080p over component and select 1920x1080 over VGA. Its more likely your Tv does not support it and can only do 1080p over HDMi...

juno_first · 14 Nov 2010 at 22:22

Ahh, ive been googling this & apparantly a VGA cable cant manage 1080p at 60hz.
Theres a display port to female HDMI adapter for the 360 but it has no optical, im still looking...

Katoom · 14 Nov 2010 at 22:22

It's the VGA on the TV that's limiting it.

MOOGLEYS · 14 Nov 2010 at 22:24

Does your Tv have component in that supports 1080p. ?

juno_first · 14 Nov 2010 at 22:30

The TV is a Sharp LC46LE700E .
I found this in the instructions pdf:

HDMI: 480i/480p/576i/576p/720p/1080i/1080p
ANALOGUE RGB: 576p/720p (50 Hz)/1080i
The ANALOGUE RGB (PC) terminal (EXT 4) is not compatible
with 480i/576i/1080p signals.

KNiVES · 14 Nov 2010 at 22:36

Doesn't matter about the monitor. 360 cannot and will not do 1080p over anything less than a HDMI cable.

MOOGLEYS · 14 Nov 2010 at 22:38

KNiVES said:
Doesn't matter about the monitor. 360 cannot and will not do 1080p over anything less than a HDMI cable.

The 360 supports 1080p over component and can output 1920x1080 over VGA...

Microsoft just rolled out the much awaited update to the Xbox 360 dashboard including -- among other things -- support for 1080p over VGA and component

http://majornelson.com/archive/2006/11/30/dashboard-update-aka-the-1080p-fix.aspx

sc(+)pe · 14 Nov 2010 at 22:43

I use a BenQ G2420HDBL 24" Widescreen LED Monitor with the vga cable at 1920x1080 without any problems.

Katoom · 14 Nov 2010 at 22:43

It's only the video that's limited to 1080i over component, apparently due to licensing.

MOOGLEYS · 14 Nov 2010 at 22:44

juno_first said:
The TV is a Sharp LC46LE700E .
I found this in the instructions pdf:

HDMI: 480i/480p/576i/576p/720p/1080i/1080p
ANALOGUE RGB: 576p/720p (50 Hz)/1080i
The ANALOGUE RGB (PC) terminal (EXT 4) is not compatible
with 480i/576i/1080p signals.

You will need to use the HDMi input to get 1080p support. If you are only using it for games you will notice little difference using 720p over 1080p.

juno_first · 14 Nov 2010 at 22:50

MOOGLEYS said:
You will need to use the HDMi input to get 1080p support. If you are only using it for games you will notice little difference using 720p over 1080p.

Im just finding out that a lot of games dont even run at 1920x1080 anyway :eek:

MOOGLEYS · 14 Nov 2010 at 22:54

juno_first said:
Im just finding out that a lot of games dont even run at 1920x1080 anyway

There is only a handfull of true 1080p games. Most of the games are barley 720p and are upscaled with AA to smooth them out. The 360 is just not powerfull enough for mainstream 1080p gaming.

Demon · 15 Nov 2010 at 09:05

Indeed, since 90%+ of games aren't internally rendered at 1080p, you might as well just use Component set at 720p..

You could always trade your 360 in, and put a little extra money to a secondhand 120GB Elite with HDMI (Make sure you get a late 2009/early 2010 manufactured model)..

Firestar_3x · 15 Nov 2010 at 09:50

KNiVES said:
Doesn't matter about the monitor. 360 cannot and will not do 1080p over anything less than a HDMI cable.

My release day 360 must be broken then, i ran that at 1080p over VGA and component till i got my Elite.

Wyrdo · 15 Nov 2010 at 11:42

KNiVES said:
Doesn't matter about the monitor. 360 cannot and will not do 1080p over anything less than a HDMI cable.

Completely incorrect.

antijoke · 15 Nov 2010 at 12:01

KNiVES said:
Doesn't matter about the monitor. 360 cannot and will not do 1080p over anything less than a HDMI cable.

Pure drivel.

Yungstar 2006 · 15 Nov 2010 at 17:48

KNiVES said:
Doesn't matter about the monitor. 360 cannot and will not do 1080p over anything less than a HDMI cable.

Xfirus · 18 Nov 2010 at 15:50

MOOGLEYS said:
There is only a handfull of true 1080p games. Most of the games are barley 720p and are upscaled with AA to smooth them out. The 360 is just not powerfull enough for mainstream 1080p gaming.

Nor is the PS3, there are very few 1080p games on either system and most of the ones that are can be found on the XBLA/PSN. Fortunately the 360 has a pretty good upscaler, can't say the same about my PS3.

I personally use 1080p on my monitor over VGA with my non-HDMI 360 but it seems your TV doesn't support 1080p in anything other than HDMI, which is pretty common I have found.