That's the thing - yes there will be first time buyers in that market and those who already have kit but who are prepared to switch but they represent a tiny percentage of the overall market and I doubt Canon is losing any sleep over it.
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That's the thing - yes there will be first time buyers in that market and those who already have kit but who are prepared to switch but they represent a tiny percentage of the overall market and I doubt Canon is losing any sleep over it.
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I personally know a friend who refused to get the D800 due to the pixel size, he thinks the 5D3 is his perfect camera.
I know another who went for the Nikon DF over the D800.
I know another who went for the Nikon DF over the D800.
Interesting - did he switch from Nikon to Canon then?
Personally I really struggle to see the point of the super-high megapixel sensors. Everyone (well Nikon fans) drone on about the added detail but unless you're doing ludicrous cropping it makes no real difference and, if you are cropping that much, you need different lenses or better technique really.
If does make a difference in large prints and you like to view them at a closer distance to see that extra detail.
I don't shoot landscapes or print that big though, so it's not a need to have for me. I've been tempted a few times though.
For me ~20MP is more than enough. 16MP on my 1Ds2 matches the largest print size that I like, so ~20MP would give that little bit extra if some cropping is needed. High ISO performance and clean shadows are things that I would like to have, eventually
I did like the sound of the DF, until it was actually released.
I don't shoot landscapes or print that big though, so it's not a need to have for me. I've been tempted a few times though.
For me ~20MP is more than enough. 16MP on my 1Ds2 matches the largest print size that I like, so ~20MP would give that little bit extra if some cropping is needed. High ISO performance and clean shadows are things that I would like to have, eventually
I did like the sound of the DF, until it was actually released.
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No, he has always been a Nikon shooter.
He just find it unnecessary for wedding work.
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i was a nikon shooter (d700) and decided to switch to two canon 5d mark iiis because i was so underwhelmed with what the d800 brought to the table. The 5d is certainly a better wedding camera...i just wish it could compete with nikon for dynamic range.
is it a good idea to try magic lantern then...?
is it a good idea to try magic lantern then...?
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The 5D MKIII was what underwhelmed me. The D800 was a real step up from the D700 in almost every sense. The Sony sensors really are leading the way at the moment and Nikon are getting the best out of them.
Yeah the forums were full of wedding shooters sticking with their D700's rather than moving to a 36MP camera that is overkill for wedding album prints.
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Not fair really as Nikon are not capable of making there own sensors while at least canon does.
The 5d3 was a huge step up compared to the 5d2 so i am not sure why you disagree with that.
the 5d3 had better ISO, better features and a superior AF system.
the AF alone is worthy of an upgrade for some.
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I had the 5D MKIII and the D800 at the same time, I've still got the D800. The 5D MKII.5 was what the new Canon felt like. It's what the MKII should have been really. Canon don't win any brownie points from me over producing their own sensors. The Sony ones are simply better and the D800 is unrivalled.
The new MK 4 is facing some stiff competition.
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well its simple to slap on someone elses sensor and call it your own so effort-wise canon wins as they make there own sensors and dont rely on third parties to it.
i was pretty shocked Nikon diddnt make there own one for such a reputable camera maker
They do design their own in fairness.
It's interesting, if you're a landscape shooter you can argue the A7r is unrivalled, if you're a wedding shooter that the 5D3 is unrivalled, etc. etc.
It's great to have so much choice, but terms such as "unrivalled" have little meaning when it comes down to it. Each and every person has their own requirements and no one system ever seems to meet them all, it's a conspiracy!
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Let's stop there now before this turn into one of those mine is better than yours exercise.
That's why the DF interested me at the start.
The D800 has better DR than the 5D3 at low ISO, by 1600 the DR is close enough between them, then the 5D3 starts to pull away. It's just another example of no single system being perfect. Of course you can then decide which is more important to you.
Absolutely, but when Nikon remains as far ahead as they have done over the past half decade in sensor tech that they perform better in low light, and in dynamic range, and in resolution etc. it's a decent trade. That said Canon I think has more of a chance to get on a level pegging with the 5D4 vs D810 battle than they did with the 5d3 vs d800 battle in the sensor stakes.
I don't see any reason to upgrade mind you and I doubt 5d3 owners will see much reason either.