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Was that aimed at me?
Mate its a giant huge ripoff
They pushed it on you because it costs them pennies. and get to sell it to you for £300
Can't you see its all just further ****** used to rip you off ?
What you get on the discount, they get back from you with **** like this ?
That said, the deal is done now so theres no point arguing now.
I guess the fact I didnt pay £300 for it is a pretty good starting point for my reply...
For £140 over the listed price I got
£70 quid of Fuel
£71.50's worth of road tax
2 years worth of Servicing (£150 + £250 for year 1 + 2 respectively)
This Autoglym work with lifetime guarentee.... so when I spill something on the seats and it doesnt come out I get it sorted for free....
To me, thats not that bad, even by MrLOL standards.
Regarding the 3 series Touring option, we looked at an E46 and an E90, boot space wasnt tall or deep enough for us
You know its not worth £300, they know, we know.
But it gets included in the price you "should have paid" to make the deal seem better.
You say it should have cost £15730.50, but we know £300 of that is just a huge markup on a £20 polish kit. So its more like £15,430.
Can't you see ?
But it gets included in the price you "should have paid" to make the deal seem better.
You say it should have cost £15730.50, but we know £300 of that is just a huge markup on a £20 polish kit. So its more like £15,430.
Can't you see ?
Such a huge amount of money to spend on that 
You seemed pretty obsessed with not having repair bills, but your depreciation will far outweigh anything that would have come up on a slightly older car. You've just spent £15000 to do 6000 business miles a year and to commute for 3 months, it's just madness - especially when your OP says £6500 budget and no more than 10k!
As for the deal, sorry to say it but you got taken to the cleaners. You said that over the phone they said £14700 which indicated they were willing to discuss price. Oh and it's also a plate generation old...
If you wanted reliability, you could have picked up a 4 year old Honda Accord estate, Mazda 6 estate or Toyota Avensis estate for sub 5k and it would have given you everything you wanted and 10k in the bank to buy something "fun"...
You seemed pretty obsessed with not having repair bills, but your depreciation will far outweigh anything that would have come up on a slightly older car. You've just spent £15000 to do 6000 business miles a year and to commute for 3 months, it's just madness - especially when your OP says £6500 budget and no more than 10k!
As for the deal, sorry to say it but you got taken to the cleaners. You said that over the phone they said £14700 which indicated they were willing to discuss price. Oh and it's also a plate generation old...
If you wanted reliability, you could have picked up a 4 year old Honda Accord estate, Mazda 6 estate or Toyota Avensis estate for sub 5k and it would have given you everything you wanted and 10k in the bank to buy something "fun"...
You've been had, sorry! I always have to smile when anyone that's just bought a car says they've "done a deal", as though the dealers have gone out of their way to offer something special.
Could have got a 3-year old Focus 2.0 petrol Titanium Estate for under 10k.
Could have got a 3-year old Focus 2.0 petrol Titanium Estate for under 10k.
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This is a complete waste of time - nothing you say will get through to him because he has actually tried to defend 'Autoglym Lifeshine'.
It's a completely horrific deal, but he's convinced himself its right for him so no matter how wrong he is in reality, he'll never see it and this thread wont go anywhere.
Wait.. hang on? This car isnt a factory order? Broadspeed are doing brand new DSG vRS Estates for £14800?
Surely this isn't a pre-reg?
It's a completely horrific deal, but he's convinced himself its right for him so no matter how wrong he is in reality, he'll never see it and this thread wont go anywhere.
Wait.. hang on? This car isnt a factory order? Broadspeed are doing brand new DSG vRS Estates for £14800?
Surely this isn't a pre-reg?
May I take you all back to post #10 of this thread.
A USED Skoda Fabia for £14,000. Makes me want to cry.
£14k for a used Fabia?
Rather you than me
So much metal available for £14k.
A USED Skoda Fabia for £14,000. Makes me want to cry.
I think my head is actually going to explode.
You have to hand it to the salesman though - cracking deal for the business and the best bit is how he's absolutely convinced the buyer he hasn't been well and truely done up like a kipper in what must be the highest margin sale they've done all year.
I mean actually getting him to pay more than asking price by throwing in a load of ultra-margin junk to increase 'value', this is textbook salesman stuff
You have to hand it to the salesman though - cracking deal for the business and the best bit is how he's absolutely convinced the buyer he hasn't been well and truely done up like a kipper in what must be the highest margin sale they've done all year.
I mean actually getting him to pay more than asking price by throwing in a load of ultra-margin junk to increase 'value', this is textbook salesman stuff
£15124!
Wow.... I expected some flaming, but not MikeHoiw levels of it.
Maybe I haven't been clear with the deal, or maybe I've made a huge huge miscalculation on what in my mind felt like an ok deal. In order to try and work out which of the two I've done... read on.
Forget for a moment that other cars exist. I say this because nothing else we looked at seemed to tick all the boxes of what we wanted. We literally went to look at what felt like hundreds of cars. We didn't want a massive barge/a huge people carrier/something which wasn't fun to drive/something with 70k on the clock already/a 30mpg combined 3.0 straight six......
Just humour me as I appear to have done for all you and work through this with me.
From Car file which Olly linked to earlier in the thread I could buy a brand new car with the same options for £15439, to break that down
The car £13951 base price...
Electric Rear Windows £124.00
3 Spoke multifunction steering wheel with telephone controls £132.00
Telephone Prep with Bluetooth £188.00
Cruise Control £140.00
Climate Control £220.00
Heated front seats £132.00
Front Arm Rest £72.00
Metallic Black Paint £352.00
Alloy Wheels in black £88.00
Floor Mats £40.00
Thats without Tax, and with whatever fuel they get delivered with. Lets assume its empty for arguements sake.
If I had gone down this route, whilst waiting the 6 months that people are quoting for new cars, I would have had to service my exisitng focus and MOT it. In order to claim mileage, work are now insisting on main dealer servicing. Ford quoted me £150 for the next service my car needs, and an MOT is about £50. Lets assume (again) that nothing needed doing to my car in the MOT or the Service.
Taking the option of waiting for a new car, including the servicing on my focus comes in at £15639. Put on 6months tax (£71.50) a full tank of fuel (£70) and buy the Skoda Servicing pack (£299) thats £16079.50
So. I'm lined up to pay £15140 (£140 of which according to the invoice as they did it 'at cost' is this lifeshine thing, read on later). Take that life shine £140 off, and I'm paying £1079.50 less than if I waited for a new car. This isn't taking into account the money I'll save with better MPG in the Fabia when doing business mileage during this wait time as obviously I can't guarentee what MPG I'll achieve.
Saving nearly £1100 in return for a car that is 2 months and 1000 miles old to me seems ok to me.
If you look closer at the deal I've done, I've worked it out as follows
Car £14559.50
Tax £71.50
Fuel £70.00
Servicing Pack £299
Lifeshine £140
I genuinely thought the life shine was worth it for £140 quid. Sure, I can get a kit for £40 on ebay, but theres no guarentee with that when, if we are lucky enough to have children, they vomit on the seat and the stain won't come out that someone will sort it and I dont have a nasty mark on the seats.
If most of the OMFG is down to me spending £15k on a Skoda Fabia Estate, fair enough. Its not the car I expect many of you to want to buy. If its because the deal is absolutely horrendous, and we could have done better on another Skoda Fabia VRS estate, point me in the direction of another car where there is definitely a lower priced deal to be had and I'll pull the plug on this deal. There are only 2 VRS estates listed cheaper than this in the UK. One is £14495 with 14k on the clock and a 2010 car, the other is £14499 with 7k on the clock, also a 2010 car. Both are missing several of the options (such as climate and heated seats) that this car has....
Maybe I haven't been clear with the deal, or maybe I've made a huge huge miscalculation on what in my mind felt like an ok deal. In order to try and work out which of the two I've done... read on.
Forget for a moment that other cars exist. I say this because nothing else we looked at seemed to tick all the boxes of what we wanted. We literally went to look at what felt like hundreds of cars. We didn't want a massive barge/a huge people carrier/something which wasn't fun to drive/something with 70k on the clock already/a 30mpg combined 3.0 straight six......
Just humour me as I appear to have done for all you and work through this with me.
From Car file which Olly linked to earlier in the thread I could buy a brand new car with the same options for £15439, to break that down
The car £13951 base price...
Electric Rear Windows £124.00
3 Spoke multifunction steering wheel with telephone controls £132.00
Telephone Prep with Bluetooth £188.00
Cruise Control £140.00
Climate Control £220.00
Heated front seats £132.00
Front Arm Rest £72.00
Metallic Black Paint £352.00
Alloy Wheels in black £88.00
Floor Mats £40.00
Thats without Tax, and with whatever fuel they get delivered with. Lets assume its empty for arguements sake.
If I had gone down this route, whilst waiting the 6 months that people are quoting for new cars, I would have had to service my exisitng focus and MOT it. In order to claim mileage, work are now insisting on main dealer servicing. Ford quoted me £150 for the next service my car needs, and an MOT is about £50. Lets assume (again) that nothing needed doing to my car in the MOT or the Service.
Taking the option of waiting for a new car, including the servicing on my focus comes in at £15639. Put on 6months tax (£71.50) a full tank of fuel (£70) and buy the Skoda Servicing pack (£299) thats £16079.50
So. I'm lined up to pay £15140 (£140 of which according to the invoice as they did it 'at cost' is this lifeshine thing, read on later). Take that life shine £140 off, and I'm paying £1079.50 less than if I waited for a new car. This isn't taking into account the money I'll save with better MPG in the Fabia when doing business mileage during this wait time as obviously I can't guarentee what MPG I'll achieve.
Saving nearly £1100 in return for a car that is 2 months and 1000 miles old to me seems ok to me.
If you look closer at the deal I've done, I've worked it out as follows
Car £14559.50
Tax £71.50
Fuel £70.00
Servicing Pack £299
Lifeshine £140
I genuinely thought the life shine was worth it for £140 quid. Sure, I can get a kit for £40 on ebay, but theres no guarentee with that when, if we are lucky enough to have children, they vomit on the seat and the stain won't come out that someone will sort it and I dont have a nasty mark on the seats.
If most of the OMFG is down to me spending £15k on a Skoda Fabia Estate, fair enough. Its not the car I expect many of you to want to buy. If its because the deal is absolutely horrendous, and we could have done better on another Skoda Fabia VRS estate, point me in the direction of another car where there is definitely a lower priced deal to be had and I'll pull the plug on this deal. There are only 2 VRS estates listed cheaper than this in the UK. One is £14495 with 14k on the clock and a 2010 car, the other is £14499 with 7k on the clock, also a 2010 car. Both are missing several of the options (such as climate and heated seats) that this car has....
But there are other cars. What's wrong with the Focus, for example? It it still regarding as one of the best driving cars in its class, and isn't huge by any means. The 2.0 petrol is still decent on fuel and you could get one that has done 25k miles. There are other options too.
If OPs happy with the deal, then so be it. It's not like he bought a tatty Clio from a car supermarket at a criminal rate of APR.