Car now bought...

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Well after months of thought and consideration, bought an E46 330i auto sport (facelift) over the weekend. Pics below:

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In terms of spec, it's pretty much a poverty level sport, with not much beyond the standard kit, though being fair, that's not rubbish, and I wasn't bothered about most of the extras as they would clearly have pushed up the price. Example of kit include full leather, 18" alloys, M-tech steering wheel (very nice), automatic, 6 disk boot changer (not good I have to say), lots of electrics etc.

Having compared the model to a whole bunch of cars (e.g. E39, Impreza, Accord Type-R, Merc C, Mundano) I really am very sure that it was the right choice for the job. Since collecting I've already covered over 400 miles, so have a pretty good picture of it's strengths and weaknesses.

Excluding the simple cost of it, it's clearly not as economical as a diesel, though still achieved 30mpg. It has a slight tramlining on uneven motorway surfaces, and is also not as quiet or as relaxed as say my old Rover 75 Con.

Making up for that, I really do rate how well put together it is , makes all but an Audi feel like an 80s Toyota.
The gearbox is an interesting solution. In D, incredibly smooth and refined, but with some serious kickdown when required. Shove it into S, and the pick up is substantially better, meaning that on a tighter road it's much easier to slingshot out of corners. Straight acceleration is just very linear and I'm guessing would be on par with an ATR when the ATR driver is going for it, and walk all over one when he misses a gear. On top of that, the engine note is about as good as it gets short of the roar of a good v8.
Handling is good, though you can feel it's weight as it has a fair bit of momentum. For all that, turn in is good and the lack of torque steer is lovely.

In short, a brilliant GT that eats long distances for breakfast, yet can still hustle fairly quickly down a backroad. The feedback is not direct enough to be a sports car, but that's fine, as it's not trying to be.

As it's an auto, I'll be learning how to get the best out of it for a little while longer, but it does look like it has plenty in reserve.
 
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MonkeyMan said:
You still got the mx-5?

Yep, but hopefully not for much longer. I have a chap coming to view this evening. Failing that, hoping that I get some joy from my ad on Pistonheads.

The bimmer has actually been put in my g/fs name and her car went in px. We will be going down to a single vehicle as we never need more than one at any point in time.
 
Mr_Sukebe said:
Yep, but hopefully not for much longer.

Never thought I'd hear those words from you Mr Sukebe :eek:

BMW does look nice, but losing the quality top down ride for it just seems to much.

I'm sure you'll see sense again soon. :D
 
Lovely car - spec on these is still pretty good (climate, 18s, leather, cd changer).

Mine came with exactly the same spec - only things I felt that were missing were Xenons and Satnav, both of which I have now retrofitted :)
 
MonkeyMan said:
Never thought I'd hear those words from you Mr Sukebe :eek:

BMW does look nice, but losing the quality top down ride for it just seems to much.
I'm sure you'll see sense again soon. :D

I need to have some additional seats with the oncoming of a Mr_Sukebe junior. As I never get to drive except on a weekend, I just know that if I kept the MX5, that I'd never get to use it. So regardless of how much fun it is, needs to go. Will certainly miss it.

Nickxx: How much were the Xenons and where did you source them from?
 
Mr_Sukebe said:
Nickxx: How much were the Xenons and where did you source them from?

I got them on a group buy for £120. They're not OEM jobs but do the same job. IIRC they're called the 'H7 H.I.D. Interpower X3 Conversion Kit 6000k' (nothing to do with the car) and come in a blue box.

Give me a shout if you need more advice on fitting them, I've written a guide here:

http://www.channelmotors.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=113
 
NickXX said:
I got them on a group buy for £120. They're not OEM jobs but do the same job. IIRC they're called the 'H7 H.I.D. Interpower X3 Conversion Kit 6000k' (nothing to do with the car) and come in a blue box.

Give me a shout if you need more advice on fitting them, I've written a guide here:

http://www.channelmotors.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=113

Hows the beam pattern with those 'kit' HID's? The OEM HID's use a totally different lens, which gives a wider, and longer beam, over the standard halogens. Its not just a matter of brightness and colour.

Honestly, the non OEM HID kits are just toys to make your lights look blue, rather gaining the main benifit of HID's which is the projector like nature of the OEM sets.

Better imho to get the HELLA HID kit, which is basically what BMW use anyway.

Its also possible that the kits are not road legal. Because HID's are so bright, OEMs solutions normally have an auto alighnment system. Every time I turn my lights on you can see them adjusting themselves to prevent dazzling other road users. The kit is not only using the wrong lenses (halogen instead of HID lenses), but doesnt have the adjustment system.

PS, Nice Motor!.
 
Corasik said:
Hows the beam pattern with those 'kit' HID's? The OEM HID's use a totally different lens, which gives a wider, and longer beam, over the standard halogens. Its not just a matter of brightness and colour.

Honestly, the non OEM HID kits are just toys to make your lights look blue, rather gaining the main benifit of HID's which is the projector like nature of the OEM sets.

Better imho to get the HELLA HID kit, which is basically what BMW use anyway.

Its also possible that the kits are not road legal. Because HID's are so bright, OEMs solutions normally have an auto alighnment system. Every time I turn my lights on you can see them adjusting themselves to prevent dazzling other road users. The kit is not only using the wrong lenses (halogen instead of HID lenses), but doesnt have the adjustment system.

PS, Nice Motor!.

They're great imo. I've had them aligned by an MOT station so they don't dazzle and point where they should. They're much better than the standard halogens and particularly good for long distance night time driving. The e46 lights self level as standard when you turn them on and they come equipped with washers too.

The OEM setup is wildly expensive - I got a quote in excess of £1k from a dealer, hence my choice to go for the aftermarket kit. Leaves you with enough cash to buy an OEM sat nav kit this way ;)
 
NickXX said:
They're great imo. I've had them aligned by an MOT station so they don't dazzle and point where they should. They're much better than the standard halogens and particularly good for long distance night time driving. The e46 lights self level as standard when you turn them on and they come equipped with washers too.

The OEM setup is wildly expensive - I got a quote in excess of £1k from a dealer, hence my choice to go for the aftermarket kit. Leaves you with enough cash to buy an OEM sat nav kit this way ;)

At least you did the job properly, not like some kids down our way, who have sick dazzling blue lights :P. Still suspect the beam pattern on the oem is better, but your right it is expensive, even direct from Hella rather than a BMW dealer, its a good chunk of cash.

I know what ya mean about being better than the Halogen though, I was lucky, my used E39 had been specced with HID's from the factory, and they are outstanding at night, only downside is that when you put the main beams on they are very yellow compaired to the almost 'white' HIDS.
 
snap :D mines not a facelift though. Is that topaz blue? Auto box is a joy to use on the back roads, I drove back home friday night and over taking anything on a back roads just means into sport which drops to 4th, drop it down the 3rd and floor it. You are passed before even needing to change up so its perfect. I have been using the manual mode a round town too to use more engine braking. Does yours have the led rear lights?
 
Nice buy, congratulations :)

Mr_Sukebe said:
Straight acceleration is just very linear and I'm guessing would be on par with an ATR when the ATR driver is going for it, and walk all over one when he misses a gear.

How do you mean. It is the same speed as a ATR unless the ATR driver messes up? If they are the same then you could say this the other way round -> ATR is as quick as 330 sport unless he misses a gear...

Did you use to have an ATR or did you just test drive it. What were your thoughts on it? Interested as the ATR is a car that I am looking into at the moment.
 
He means to get the performance out of the ATR you need to be right on the boil the whole time, yet this is less of an issue with the 330i.
 
Ollie's Gadgets said:
Did you use to have an ATR or did you just test drive it. What were your thoughts on it? Interested as the ATR is a car that I am looking into at the moment.

I've test driven two ATRs. For the money, the cheaper ones are brilliant. However, compared to the 330i, they're really not in the same league. The ATR is lighter, and if you ragged the nuts off it, you'd probably just have the edge on performance. My 330i is an auto and has oodles of torque across a massive rev range, meaning that you don't need to do much more than plant the throttle. The car will pick the right gear, and shortly thereafter blast you towards the horizon in a seemingly never ending way.
So my belief is that an ATR would be fast for as long as you have motivation and stamina. The 330i will simply keep going and you could probably relax for most of it in the far superior interior.
 
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