Car Scrappage Scheme

stockhausen said:
Which questions do you need help with there Foxy?
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Well..

stockhausen said:
Do you actually have a real source for these statistics or do you just make them up on the spot?

I ask because I understand (from Parker's Guide) that up until the end of August, the top selling manufacturer was Hyundai with Ford a very close 2nd and Toyota some way behind in 3rd place. The top selling Hyundai was the i10.
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[TW]Fox;15023394 said:
You ask me for a source then confirm what I wrote? Very strange.

I wont bother to find you a source as you have already provided one showing the sales success of the i10.
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Seeing as the manufacturers foot the bill for half of the scrappage discount, shouldn'tthey then still have their original profit margin to negotiate with? If you could get £500 off before you should be able to now. but if the car is popular, then they wouldn't have given any discount before, so still won't.
 
monkey_boy said:
Seeing as the manufacturers foot the bill for half of the scrappage discount, shouldn'tthey then still have their original profit margin to negotiate with? If you could get £500 off before you should be able to now. but if the car is popular, then they wouldn't have given any discount before, so still won't.
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The footing of the bill is absorbed by there original profit margin. Therefore they up the price to add one back in.
 
As mentioned earlier
£2000 is more of a discount than you'd find on any pre-registered C1 and the rest of Citroen's small car range, the C2, C3 and C3 Pluriel also work out cheaper under the scrappage allowance than with 'cashback' deals the brand is renowned for.

It isn't unusual to find pre-registered Panda and Grande Punto models with significant savings, but the popular 500 is rarely seen with any kind of discount. An easy £2000 off through the scheme will be the biggest discount available.

The Ka is another example of a small car becoming far more accessible under the scheme than with any discount a customer could reasonably hope to negotiate under normal circumstances.

Honda has admitted its profit margins on the Jazz model are 'wafer thin' so a £2000 discount on this incredibly practical small car makes it exceptional value.

Hyundai is one of the manufacturers most enthusiastic about the scrappage scheme, and £2000 off its cheap and cheerful i10 makes it by far the least expensive new car with air conditioning as standard.

The entry-level Picanto 1.0 might be basic, but after the scrappage discount can be bought for £4195 - making it the cheapest car under the scheme to date.

Minis have been notoriously difficult to secure a good discount on in the past, so if you have an old car that qualifies under the scrappage scheme - perhaps one of the old Rover Group Minis - now could be the best time to get money off.

Finding a new Ibiza with £2000 off is unheard of, so using the scrappage allowance here will result in a good deal on this stylish small car. The three-door Sport Coupé version has a racier appearance than the five-door.
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I think that it is safe to say that you will get a very good deal on a new small car with the scrappage scheme that you are unlikely to be able to match without it. You are unlikely to get a significant additional discount but knowing the strengths of and any offers available from the competition will always help ;)
 
monkey_boy said:
I assumed my point from hearsay. Where does your assumtion come from?
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Common sence. No business that was selling a car for £X is then going to sell the car for £X-£1000 over night, without trying to recoup atleast some of that loss.

Your a shop owner selling boxes of sweets for £10. The government gives everyone £1 to you in your shop, and promises you will give them another £1 off when they come to you. You go "ok, thats fine, but ill take my 10% discount offer off then."
 
Honest Joe the motor dealer sells £10,000 cars with a typical £800 discount. Customers reluctantly pay £9,200. Honest Joe rents premises and employs staff.

There is a recession; people stop buying cars; Honest Joe is about to go out of business, having to lay off staff and have the bank foreclose on his quite delightful two-up, two down in Bolton which he put up as surety on his car sales premises.

The Government offers a deal whereby they will pay Honest Joe £1,000 for every car he sells on the understanding that he matches the discount (an additional £200 over and above what Honest Joe used to offer as a discount). As a result, Honest Joe now sells the same car for £8,000. Customers are overjoyed at the prospect of buying for £8,000 a car which previously they could only buy for £9,200. Honest Joe lives to sell cars another day.

Will Honest Joe offer any additional discount? He might, but only if he is having problems shifting the cars on his forecourt.
 
What about Fat John the mechanic, keeping all these rusty old bangers on the road. I mean he's gonna be out of a job. Spare a thought for Fat John the mechanic. He's gonna be pushed out of a job so some swarmy Dihatsu saleman can keep up the repayments on his Audi A3 SE 1.9TDI :(
 
Janesy B said:
What about Fat John the mechanic, keeping all these rusty old bangers on the road. I mean he's gonna be out of a job. Spare a thought for Fat John the mechanic. He's gonna be pushed out of a job so some swarmy Dihatsu saleman can keep up the repayments on his Audi A3 SE 1.9TDI :(
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I fail to see what this has to do with the OP's original question which, since you appear not to have read it yet, was
Anyone got any deals on the scappage?
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Maybe you should buy a mongrel and lay your hands on some copies of the Big Issue fatty?
 
From what I understand Dealers are very reluctant to do any sort of "deal" on any car that could benefit from the scheme. They know if you aren't going to buy it, some other fool who thinks they are getting an amazing deal with the scrapage allowance will.

Take the i10 example of it being £6495 in 08. Without the scheme you have maybe £495 for your 'banger' that you'd have to trade in, leaving you with a difference of £600, and quite frankly I think if you could not get £600 off of a Hyundai during the deepest depths of the credit crunch then you are a moron. So in the grand scheme of things, you're not an awful lot better off.
 
Janesy B said:
It is EXACTLY as relevant as what your post was.
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Go on then, do please explain how the reduction in opportunities for Fat John the tax-dodging mechanic to keep all those unsafe, unreliable, polluting and rusty old bangers on the road by patching them up with up baler twine, gaffer tape and porridge oats and issuing dodgy MOT certificates is going to have any impact on scrappage deals?


Joshy said:
From what I understand Dealers are very reluctant to do any sort of "deal" on any car that could benefit from the scheme.
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Yes, very likely true.
 
What is the point of trying to make a valid point to you Stockhausen? Everytime someone posts something that constructively counters your drivel you just simply ignore it and carry on as if that post wasn't even made. It's the equivalent to a 5 year old sticking his fingers in his ear and shouting LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU.

Frankly I can't be bothered to reply to your inane bs anymore. I hope you and your i20 are very happy and I wish you every success in the future with it.
 
I think I'll go buy a Hyundai with a nice, important, shiny 59 plate and save £2000... oh wait.

Well blow me down, the manufacturers inflated the cost of the cars to cover the scammage discount. Whatever next.

I think I'll try and defend my idiotic purchase on a forum by making no sense whatsoever.
 
Janesy B said:
What is the point of trying to make a valid point to you Stockhausen? Everytime someone posts something that constructively counters your drivel you just simply ignore it and carry on as if that post wasn't even made.
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How on earth would you know? So far as I can see, you haven't yet posted anything that addresses the OP :confused:

Janesy B said:
Frankly I can't be bothered to reply to your inane bs anymore.
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Seems reasonable ;)
 
I'm not sure about the real bottom end of the market cars, but I know my boss actually managed to stack quite a lot of discount on top of the scrappage £2k when he bought a new focus last month, got an additional £2k because that's what ford were offering as standard on certain cars, got some further discount for taking a certain finance deal which wasn't actually a bad deal (I think about £1k off), got them to knock a further £500 of the OTR price, and got some extras thrown in as well. All those should be accessible to anyone, to top it off he got a further discount for being a family member of a ford exec, ended up with a brand new focus 2.0 for about £12k I think
 
Abraham said:
I'm not sure about the real bottom end of the market cars, but I know my boss actually managed to stack quite a lot of discount on top of the scrappage £2k when he bought a new focus last month ... ended up with a brand new focus 2.0 for about £12k I think
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Getting a discount of more than £3,500 on a new car over and above the £2,000 scrappage allowance with some extras thrown in as well is quite some achievement :eek:

Your boss must have attended a very good negotiating skills course ;)


Proves it can be done.
 
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