Carb Back Loading

hellarda said:
Thanks for the input.

So just under a week since I've started, I seem to have gotten into a routine and cutting down on carbs seems to be a lot easier than I was expecting. (Except the lack of fruit, I always find myself craving fruit) over the past 6 days I have been averaging around 70g of carbs a day. However most of this has come from fruit. (Also on thursday, yesterday and today I have had a banana after exercise). About 100g of fat and about 260g of protein.

How does that look?

I am doing resistance training every Monday or Tuesday and Thursday. And from yesterday will be cycling as many days as I can. About 30mins @ ~avg 15mph

Does that all sound ok ish? Not CBL as first intended but better than my previous diet/lack of exercise. (Previously did no cardio and ate about 300g carbs/90g fat and 90g protein a day)

Cheers
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That to me, looks to be low enough carb to feel low on energy but not low enough to get any of the benefits of low carb! It's better than 90/300/90 (p/c/f) but something like 180/180/80 would probably be better if you're not going to carb cycle/backload properly.

wozza2k said:
Sorry to hijack this thread, but with CBL my understanding is you pretty much load up on carbs at set times, which causes a massive I insulin spike, am I right to assume this diet isn't suited to someone with a family history of diabetes and therefore is at high risk of diabetes themselves?
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Correct but the flipside is massively improved insulin and hormonal response from time spent in the low carb portion. It's actually been shown to reverse or lessen T2 diabetes. Dunno about T1 as that's mostly genetic afaik? My Mother & Uncle are both T1 diabetic (from birth pretty much) and I've been practising CBL for a good couple months now with nothing but positives.

YMMV/IMO/IME etc. applies!
 
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Chris1712 said:
That to me, looks to be low enough carb to feel low on energy but not low enough to get any of the benefits of low carb! It's better than 90/300/90 (p/c/f) but something like 180/180/80 would probably be better if you're not going to carb cycle/backload properly.
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Hmm, I was still intending to do a backload after the first 10 days and then once a week. My the last 6 days have been for carbs: 104, 42, 68, 103, 63, 70.

As I said, i've mainly been finding it hard to cut out fruit. The only carbs I have eaten have been from fruit.

The first couple of days I did feel low on energy (espcially when I got home around 5 having not eaten since 12:45 (school lunches) ) but the last few days I have felt much better.
 
So when are you starting prep phase? Because you haven't been below 30g per day once, and you should be below 30g per day for the whole 10 days
 
Syla5 said:
So when are you starting prep phase? Because you haven't been below 30g per day once, and you should be below 30g per day for the whole 10 days
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No, I think he was.doing the "eat less cr4p and moar Maximuscle" phase, based on his reported macro... :eek:

icecold said:
lol I think that was his prep phase.
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Mmmm... Last I checked, none of Keto, Atkins, CBL or even Weightwatchers advocated "wing it with 50% of everything ever read in Men's Health..."

OP: you've had it explained a couple of times, and Syla5 suggested the relevant stickies. Go and read them, find out how CBL ACTUALLY works and come back. People are trying to help, but - to be blunt - you don't seem to be listening. :)
 
This is why I don't talk about CBL on here or recommend it to people.

For the average person looking to trim some fat there is too much adjustment and too much to learn.
 
apologies if not listening is how it has come across. It was not my intention. I have read the stickies.

I have been trying to be below 30g but being at school/relying on family food its not that easy. Everyday I have been eating as little carbs as I have physically been able to without not eating. I was under the impression that eating more like this 'eat less cr4p and moar Maximuscle' as you put it. (Not taking any shakes as I am allergic to a lot of raw dairy) would be much better than what I was eating before.

Maybe CBL isn't the best/easiest thing for me to do given my current situation of school/exams and family food (and not being able to afford to buy my own food). Is there something similar that anyone can recommend that may be easier to do considering the circumstances?
 
Why not just eat less carbs and take some nuts/cheese/sausage/boiled eggs in? You need to be eating basically no carbs, and especially not sugary stuff like fruit!
 
Like you said, the carbs you've been getting are from fruit, so stop eating the fruit and replace it with nuts (be careful not to overeat), cheese, jerky, etc. You shouldn't be eating ANY (I think a few berries here and there are fine) fruit on your low carb days. Also, you should be limiting what veg you can eat. Generally, no root veg and mainly leafy greens.
 
Ok, the issue I was finding was that when I exercised (which I am doing most days see above post) I felt dead afterwards which is why I had a banana. Should I not be eating any fruit even after a workout/cycle?
 
Have you read the book? If not, read the book. In answer to your question, no! No bananas!!!

After your prep phase, post workout then yes. During the prep phase/on off days, little/no carbs. That means no bananas!
 
Zefan said:
Have you read the book? If not, read the book. In answer to your question, no! No bananas!!!

After your prep phase, post workout then yes. During the prep phase/on off days, little/no carbs. That means no bananas!
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Ok, I will have a read of the book. So it will be normal to feel really low on energy/sugar for the prep phase?

I assume I should start the 10 days prep phase from now then?
 
I really don't think CBL is for you. Good lord, how can you not even have read the book...

Are you even lifting weights?

Also, no cheese and no berries.
 
hellarda said:
Ok, I will have a read of the book. So it will be normal to feel really low on energy/sugar for the prep phase?

I assume I should start the 10 days prep phase from now then?
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Start now. Brief your family on what you're doing and they may even be supportive. However, if you struggle to follow a strict regime, CBL really is not for you. :)

Days 3-6 are the worst, spending on workload and diet.
 
icecold said:
I really don't think CBL is for you. Good lord, how can you not even have read the book...

Are you even lifting weights?

Also, no cheese and no berries.
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Thanks for your incredibly helpful input.

mrthingyx said:
Start now. Brief your family on what you're doing and they may even be supportive. However, if you struggle to follow a strict regime, CBL really is not for you. :)

Days 3-6 are the worst, spending on workload and diet.
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Thanks. One more question which someone brought up - Is this a good idea during exams? Someone mentioned to me how the brain only runs on sugar...
 
My advise would be eat less crap and train hard while your young. You can only do so much as far as diet is concerned when your young, living at home and have no budget for food :) but don't let that stop you trying.

CBL is not the only option by a long shot, just eat less junk, if you have a choice of drink take water, and snack on nuts and fruit not chocolate etc. School dinners chose the healthiest options you can.

Importantly train hard while being smart about eating what your given :)
 
icecold said:
This is why I don't talk about CBL on here or recommend it to people.

For the average person looking to trim some fat there is too much adjustment and too much to learn.
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I think the whole 'eat a load of cake, get ripped' aspect of it makes it seem super appealing to joe blogs, much like I.F has been retarded into 'eat what you want, fast, get ripped', so you get all these people wanting to do it without understanding it. Majority of people want amazing results without having to do any hard work.

OP - plz read:
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/articles
http://alanaragon.com/articles
 
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