Carbon black question

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So I've just bought some shower gel.. One of the ingredients is carbon black, believe it or not.

I'm led to believe carbon black is carcinogenic? Why the hell would it be in shower gel? Is this stuff safe to use!? Or should I bin it? :confused: obviously I'm not gonna be drinking it, but still, sounds a bit dodgy?
 
Is it safe? Well that depends, did you buy it on the black market? If not, yes, it's safe.

That said, not sure how happy I'd be rubbing this over me :p

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Seems to be an issue if you inhale it. Using it in a shower gel seems ok.

Carbon black is considered possibly carcinogenic to humans and classified as a Group 2B carcinogen, because there is sufficient evidence in experimental animals with inadequate evidence in human epidemiologic studies.[3] The body of evidence of carcinogenicity in animal studies comes from two chronic inhalation studies and two intratracheal instillation studies in rats, which showed significantly elevated rates of lung cancer in exposed animals.[3] An inhalation study was tested on mice, but did not show significantly elevated rates of lung cancer in exposed animals.[3] Epidemiologic data comes from three different cohort studies of carbon black production workers. Two studies, from the United Kingdom and Germany, with over 1,000 workers in each study group, showed elevated mortality from lung cancer in the carbon black workers.[3] Another study of over 5,000 workers in the United States did not show elevated mortality from lung cancer in the carbon black workers.[3] Newer findings of increased lung cancer mortality in an update from the UK study may suggest that carbon black could be a late-stage carcinogen.[11][12] However, a more recent and larger study from Germany did not confirm this hypothesis that carbon black acts as a late-stage carcinogen.[13]

In order to properly protect workers from inhalation of carbon black, respiratory personal protective equipment is recommended. The type of respiratory protection varies, depending on the concentration of carbon black used.[14]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_black
 
Cancer is only linked in animal studies, with significant amounts are inhaled.

So unless it's in powdered form and you are snorting it, then you don't have to worry.
 
Quick read suggests its inhalation that's the issue.

So as long as you're not snorting it you should be fine.

What brand is the shower gel?
 
It's used in a number of anti dandruff and scalp treatment shampoos often along with coal tar epoxy-
 
Ahhhhh, okay. Safe to say I won't be snorting carbon black pigment. Or crushed up coal / charcoal etc :D it's nivea branded. I think it's new?
 
Interesting this should pop up. I'm doing a case study on carbon black and nano-toxicology at work at the moment. It's not toxic unless the dust is nano-scale.

Just bear in mind that everything around you that is black has carbon black in it as the pigment. It's in almost everything :p
 
Interesting this should pop up. I'm doing a case study on carbon black and nano-toxicology at work at the moment. It's not toxic unless the dust is nano-scale.

Just bear in mind that everything around you that is black has carbon black in it as the pigment. It's in almost everything :p

We're all dead!!! :eek:

Seriously though how hard is it to produce nano scale dust from a black surface? I doubt the average home user would be exposed to enough to warrant any concern.

We talking black plastics mainly or literally anything black?
 
So I've just bought some shower gel.. One of the ingredients is carbon black, believe it or not.

I'm led to believe carbon black is carcinogenic? Why the hell would it be in shower gel? Is this stuff safe to use!? Or should I bin it? :confused: obviously I'm not gonna be drinking it, but still, sounds a bit dodgy?

is it coal tar shampoo?


and there is only one substance on earth that is officially "non carcinogenic" :p

unless you start downing pints of your shower gel its not going to harm you.
 
We're all dead!!! :eek:

Seriously though how hard is it to produce nano scale dust from a black surface? I doubt the average home user would be exposed to enough to warrant any concern.

We talking black plastics mainly or literally anything black?

you'd never be able to crush it fine enough for it to be on a nano scale??
 
Everything is carcinogenic depending on what paper you read, whether there is a full moon or three is a R in the month.
 
Seriously though how hard is it to produce nano scale dust from a black surface? I doubt the average home user would be exposed to enough to warrant any concern.
Carbon black isn't produced like that. It's mainly produced by partially combusting oil and there are a couple of other techniques which are used for traditional products and some electronics, but on a much smaller scale. The particles are graded on size depending on the application. Mostly it's a mix of sizes, some over 100nm and some under.

We talking black plastics mainly or literally anything black?
Literally anything which is black :p
 
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