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Learn abotu IT control - not in terms of AV, passwords, etc. but the whole gamut from a business perspective.
the better you can interface with the people who run the business (and do the front-line work) the higher you will go. As an IT auditor, the people I see in the biggest jobs are those who are:
When I say "good with the business", I don't just mean managing budgets, but more to do with aligning IT with the business and demonstrating it to be a value centre as opposed to the classic "cost" black hole. MDs/CEOs/etc. don't understand and, generally, don't' care about IT as long as their Blackberrys (sic) work, so the better you can do at explaining why server 2008 is a good idea, virtualisation would save them X and provide benefit Y, the better-placed you will be.
Always remember: the people who drive the promotions/salaries/etc. wheel aren't those in IT.
Look at things like ITIL, CObIT, SOGP, BS ISO 27001/25999, etc.
There are any number of MCSEs, CCNAs, etc. coming out from developing countries who won't expect the salaries of UK residents so the money ain't what it used to be. However, as pieces of paper showing that you can do a given job, they're vital for that basic progression.
the better you can interface with the people who run the business (and do the front-line work) the higher you will go. As an IT auditor, the people I see in the biggest jobs are those who are:
- Good at their jobs (which means, obviously, IT)
- Good with people (which quite a few people in IT aren't)
- Good with "the business" (which few people in IT are)
When I say "good with the business", I don't just mean managing budgets, but more to do with aligning IT with the business and demonstrating it to be a value centre as opposed to the classic "cost" black hole. MDs/CEOs/etc. don't understand and, generally, don't' care about IT as long as their Blackberrys (sic) work, so the better you can do at explaining why server 2008 is a good idea, virtualisation would save them X and provide benefit Y, the better-placed you will be.
Always remember: the people who drive the promotions/salaries/etc. wheel aren't those in IT.
Look at things like ITIL, CObIT, SOGP, BS ISO 27001/25999, etc.
There are any number of MCSEs, CCNAs, etc. coming out from developing countries who won't expect the salaries of UK residents so the money ain't what it used to be. However, as pieces of paper showing that you can do a given job, they're vital for that basic progression.
it looks like an mcse may be the way forward by the sounds of everyones comments, are there any time restraints on when you have to compete the exams by? I mean can I study for one exam then take it then begin to study the second one etc
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No time restaints as such, but bear in mind mcse is for 2003 and we're now on 2008.
If you were going to get it all done soon that's no bother, but leave it a long time and it'll be pointless imho.
So from a product lifecycle point of view I'd say you do have more reason to get it done quicker than not.
mrthingyx I agree with what you are saying, I had an MCSE booked up last year but canned it as am spending the training budget on other things that'll benefit me more like some ITIL stuff plus some other little certs
If you were going to get it all done soon that's no bother, but leave it a long time and it'll be pointless imho.
So from a product lifecycle point of view I'd say you do have more reason to get it done quicker than not.
mrthingyx I agree with what you are saying, I had an MCSE booked up last year but canned it as am spending the training budget on other things that'll benefit me more like some ITIL stuff plus some other little certs
yeah ill have to get some money put aside and get the books bought and start learning, hopefully be decorating the small office/spare box bedroom soon to so will put in a decent sized desk to set some kit up.
I think it might be a good excuse for an upgrade to so I can get a bit better performance out of vmware/virtual pc as im currently running a P4!
I think it might be a good excuse for an upgrade to so I can get a bit better performance out of vmware/virtual pc as im currently running a P4!
Like the other guys have been saying it takes a while to get to MCSE, with 2008 becoming more popular now and soon 2008R2 the server 2008 certs will become more important. If you've got a 2008 cert you'll be fine for dealing with 2003, the jist of things is not far different.