case cooling - there a limit?

Drazic said:
Does the pic of the rough job not explaine or show it enough?
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Nope. Neither does your 1am explanation .

How and what is a unit that holds water? Will it be chilled from the same unit that's cooling the cpu?

You said water that's chilled or frozen - that makes no sense.

water pumped to the gfx you mention quad sli - how will the heat not effect the cpu temps if on the same cooling system?

How can you cool the chilled water more with fans? More like cool the heated up water.

How do you know the water wont be heated past ambient by the quad sli system and thus rendering your case cooling inept?

no i don't...get it.

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Jokester said:
I see you're direct die cooling your CPU Drazic. Was the IHS hard to remove?

I've done A64s often enough in the past to know it's fairly easy and straight forward to do but I've heard that Intel quite often glue theirs on. Was the case with Conroe?

Jokester
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I think they can removed with a soldering iron.
 
Jokester said:
I see you're direct die cooling your CPU Drazic. Was the IHS hard to remove?

I've done A64s often enough in the past to know it's fairly easy and straight forward to do but I've heard that Intel quite often glue theirs on. Was the case with Conroe?

Jokester
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I got one i requested to be IHS less. Was really nice. The other are a bitch as they are slightly soldered on with tin as well the RTV stuff. A mate has some odd tool that heats up this silly thin plate. It cuts perfect through the RTV and heats the solder up. Took a good 30 mins to go round and get it off but is well worth it

weescott said:
Nope. Neither does your 1am explanation .

How and what is a unit that holds water? Will it be chilled from the same unit that's cooling the cpu?

You said water that's chilled or frozen - that makes no sense.

water pumped to the gfx you mention quad sli - how will the heat not effect the cpu temps if on the same cooling system?

How can you cool the chilled water more with fans? More like cool the heated up water.

How do you know the water wont be heated past ambient by the quad sli system and thus rendering your case cooling inept?

no i don't...get it.

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Res, with the suction and cap tube coiled around the outside. The res being coper for the obvisos reasons. The res will be cooled by the only compressor in the system, the exact same one for using on my CPU. All it that the Suction and cap tubes lines will be coiled around the res. These 2 lines are what frost up. Thus intun will lower the water temps.

Gray has asaid both here and to my self personaly that he can make it so any water temps is possible. So it coud go like a water chiller and sub zero -31c per say so say thats frozen or it could chill the water to say 8c. The latter should make no newed for insulation on the lines and the rad condesinging into the case.

Quad SLI don't get that hot. Max temp i saw on all 4 core with Conroe running at the higest clock yet on phase was 50 max all 4 cores. The wtaer will go to each all atthe same time, not a loop over etc etc. Then form hat to the rad. The rad will cool thew water more so it don;t effect the phase unit on the cpu. ie dumping heatload into the system.

I'm going to be playing this weekend with my cards to deced which i wana e3ep. I have found quad sli to be rather **** and pointless, fact it's more productive standing in the changing room of women that using these things. One card yeah fine, 4 nah. I tried it on a 42'' plasma too and they worked better than anyhting then but still might as well bin em.

Hopefully you are understanding now. If not then i guess the lmae ass effort and mea easy paint pic will be need

Star out swearies please - Jokester
 
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Drazic said:
Gray has asaid both here and to my self personaly that he can make it so any water temps is possible. So it coud go like a water chiller and sub zero -31c per say so say thats frozen or it could chill the water to say 8c.
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what do you mean, so its frozen ??? arent you using some form of antifreeze solution and pumping it round ?

so the aim is to get the case to the point where the ambient temp inside is low enough to reduce dew point :confused: or to get cooler components ???


TBH, im not sure why you need more than chilled water on the components, phase on whatever you fancy, and just normal case air cooling ...

would make life easier... if you want a cooler ambient, id just suggest getting an air con unit for the room
 
Whoo a 1st in any topic here at ocuk. well bar the expert on this one Gray.

When Gray has the time to start to play and his hand and wrist are better we'll se eit going on.

The idea is to have a chiller system to water chill the GFx and the retru nto go through a PA120.3 rad thats blowing cool air into the case.

When you sit using the 500fsb of a Bad axe mobo the bord get bloody hot.

The cpu will be phase only, super cold, - 50c say

The gfx be water chilled

The rad take the return and blown in cool air

The case inside can be 8c which be mint, thus also helps everyuthing eelks downward in the case to be safe
 
Drazic said:
The plan is too

Phase direct die cpu same as the current unit however adding on a bit of extra pipe work to the suction and cap tube to make a unit to hold water that will be chilled or frozen (biut not really due to type of coolent used) of which water willl be pumped to the gfx then that to the rad then back to the box that sit on the suction and cap tube line. The cooler.chilled/frozen water will cool the cards then flwo into the rad where it will be warmer as this water will hit ether of my quad sli, sli or crossfire cards and the fan will draw in thus cooling the water more and cooler air into the case, how ever this water will be cold anyway and the effect hoped for is a aircon unit but that cold....get it?
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Next Christmas ask for a comma :)


Drazic said:
I got one i requested to be IHS less.
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You must have some reputation before they sent you an IHS'less one at your request.



Drazic said:
the Suction and cap tubes lines will be coiled around the res. These 2 lines are what frost up. Thus intun will lower the water temps.
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When have you ever seen a frosty cap tube like? The cap tube is full of condensed freon the frost is caused by phase change from liquid to gas aborbing heat in the evap as it changes phase back into a gas (it needs to do this in order to boil and become a gas again) This is why your evap and suction line get frosty, because the freon gas is absorbing heat.


Drazic said:
Quad SLI don't get that hot.
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<cough> scrollox!


Drazic said:
I'm going to be playing this weekend with my cards to deced which i wana e3ep. I have found quad sli to be rather **** and pointless, fact it's more productive standing in the changing room of women that using these things. One card yeah fine, 4 nah. I tried it on a 42'' plasma too and they worked better than anyhting then but still might as well bin em.
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As above tbh.

Drazic said:
Hopefully you are understanding now. If not then i guess the lmae ass effort and mea easy paint pic will be need

Star out swearies please - Jokester
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I would love to see some pics, we keep asking and we keep seeing nothing, come on man, or are you all talk and no trousers?

Sorry Drazic, but i think you're full of **** and unless you prove me otherwise, me and countless other people both here and on XS (hello pete) will continue to think so!
 
right...

so its a chilled water loop, with a rad over the air intake, to attempt to cool the air down as it passes chilled water ???? that correct Drazic ?

This will heat the chilled water up, but it should work on some sort of level with regards to case cooling, however, tbh, i think it would be a waste of time.. why not just phase and use chilled water ?
 
Drazic said:
I'm going to be playing this weekend with my cards to deced which i wana e3ep. I have found quad sli to be rather **** and pointless, fact it's more productive standing in the changing room of women that using these things. One card yeah fine, 4 nah. I tried it on a 42'' plasma too and they worked better than anyhting then but still might as well bin em.
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I find that one of the more questionable comments on here, a 42" plasma will run at 1366x768 or something like that so quad sli is going to be a bit pointless for that, as is sli and crossfire in fact anything above probably a 7900gt.

I know its not fair to question someone who's suspended (:p) but Drazic, you really do bring this on yourself.. its hard enough trying to decypher your posts, and when you do it's ultimately disappointment that awaits as they're generally nonsense.
 
matt100 said:
I'm more interested in benchmarks from the UKs fastest PC :p
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Sorry, but my quad conroe setup with dual quad sli isn't stable enough at 8ghz to use paint and i cba to downclock it right now ;)
 
Bundes - Gray is finishing one other job off then onto mine. he also has work and a family and amazing kid to run after so all in good time. Oh and it was his Birthday recently. Oh 8Ghz...nice your the worlds fastest so far and Intel will be very intrested to know what bord you used. Max FSB on any Conroe bord is 600 and thats the DFI Infinty and thats not a name for it's max clock

Matt - go jump
 
Drazic said:
8Ghz...nice your the worlds fastest so far and Intel will be very intrested to know what bord you used. Max FSB on any Conroe bord is 600 and thats the DFI Infinty and thats not a name for it's max clock

Matt - go jump
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I made the Board myself with a scalpel, a hacksaw, some sodler pens, a dollop of blu-tac and some sticky backed plastic. it uses an XP2500m for the NB so can handle all the fsb i can throw at it when it's phase change cooled.

*edit* oh and weescotts magic screwdriver :D

Matt - Happy landing.
 
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Drazic said:
Bundes - Gray is finishing one other job off then onto mine. he also has work and a family and amazing kid to run after so all in good time. Oh and it was his Birthday recently. Oh 8Ghz...nice your the worlds fastest so far and Intel will be very intrested to know what bord you used. Max FSB on any Conroe bord is 600 and thats the DFI Infinty and thats not a name for it's max clock

Matt - go jump
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I'll jump all you like when you change your sig and stop talking horse poo, you're the one claiming to have the UKs fastest PC, shouldn't it be changed to the UKs least ninja picture thieving skills?

Bundles - Fancy a bounce off? I'll go first?
 
Bundles and weescott in 8Ghz clocking action:

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DUDE! you said you wern't gonna post that!! :eek:

*edit* just for the record, I'm the one on the left of that pic, with my hand next to the magic screwdriver, scotts the geeky looking one whinning something like "look what you did" :p
 
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Ah children..explane how and why you kileld some and most of your hardwear.

By they way when did you become my dad or mother?? Or better still the don of me er...never

If you have any use of that noggin you'll see it all in the other topic no bog off as your spoling this topic which is about uber case cooling nowt eles. get it
 
I seem to recall you spoiled it by going and getting suspended for posting another load of tripe and then swearing when people questioned you?
 
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