Case with fastest/latest front Panel I/O

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Hello people,

I am soon wanting to build a PC and initially I was thinking of going with the Dark Base 700 from BE Quiet. But then I decided to go for the Haf 700 Evo, but having second thoughs now as its too big to be honest. One of my main priorities is to have the latest and fastest I/O ports at the front of the case...

Which other cases have 3.2 Gen 2 Type C and 3.2 Gen 2 Type A Ports on front panel apart from the two above cases?

I did think about the 011 Dynamic Evo and the Hyte Y60, however these both don't have both 3.2 gen 2 type A and C ports on the front I/O, or have one and not the other....furthermore I ruled out the Hyte due to no full PCIE slots etc.

Please advise of any pc cases which meet the above requierments, I most likly will be building a Ryzen 9 7900 with X670E Hero board.....and CORSAIR iCUE H170i ELITE CAPELLIX 360.
 
There is no USB 3.2 Gen 2 type A, only Gen 1. And ultimately the connectors are all the same I believe, it's defined by the motherboard as to what speed and protocol you get. I'm presuming any case with a USB C front connector is not going to have USB 2.0 sockets.
 
What speed would USB 3.0 Type A be?

Am I right in thinking these are the transfer speeds for:-

USB TYPE A 3.0 is 5Gb/S
USB TYPE A 3.1 Gen 1 is 10 Gb/S

USB TYPE C 3.1 Gen 1 is 10 Gb/S
USB TYPE c 3.2 Gen 2 is 20GB/S
 
Type A will max out at 10Gbps yes. USB type C I'm not 100% how it works with single and dual lanes. Don't forget they kept renaming the generations - honestly, type A and type C are plug shapes and if the case has the connector, I'd expect it to work with the relevant motherboard :)
 
The I/O Specs of the cases I'm intrested in are below. o11 dynamic evo is out the question as it only has usb Type C 3.1.

For the other three....what is the difference between Type A 3.2 Gen 1, 3.2 Gen 1 (3.0) and 3.0? Is Darkbase 700 and Haf 700 Evo the same or differnet?

If its just the connecter shape they wouldn't confuse it all with all the numbers......? They probably have differnet pin layouts or more/less pins?

Darkbase 700
1x Type C 3.2 Gen 2
2x Type A 3.2 Gen 1

Haf 700 Evo
1x TYPE C 3.2 Gen 2
4x Type A 3.2 Gen 1 (3.0)

Hyte Y60
1x Type C 3.2 Gen 2
2x Type A 3.0

o11 Dynamic Evo
1x USB Type C 3.1
2x USB Type A 3.0
 
Usb 3.0 and 3.1 were renamed and absorbed into specs of 3.2 as the gen 1 and gen 2 suffixes.

Yes it's a mess. All the cases you've listed above have the same compatibility.

USB 3.2 gen 1 Type A === USB 3.0
USB 3.2 gen 2 Type C === USB 3.1 Type C

No extra pins, a plug is a plug (ignoring the old old USB 2.0 4-pin Type A plugs).

It's all down to protocols.

en.wikipedia.org

USB - Wikipedia

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LuckyBenski said:
Usb 3.0 and 3.1 were renamed and absorbed into specs of 3.2 as the gen 1 and gen 2 suffixes.

Yes it's a mess. All the cases you've listed above have the same compatibility.

USB 3.2 gen 1 Type A === USB 3.0
USB 3.2 gen 2 Type C === USB 3.1 Type C

No extra pins, a plug is a plug (ignoring the old old USB 2.0 4-pin Type A plugs).

It's all down to protocols.

en.wikipedia.org

USB - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
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Thanks for the help.....I think you are probably right....I will probably go for the o11 dynamic evo, if not then the Haf 700 Evo if I can find it cheap....
 
I decided to go with Lian Li o11 dynamic evo, but i have a question, do the ports support 60w charging?

I will be using x670e hero and dark power pro 12 psu.

Will I need to connect the 6 pin connector on the motherboard under the 24 pin so the usb ports charge if the case supports it? and if so what is that cable called as I want to buy a white cable to match the asthetics.

I probably sound stupid! :)

Thanks,
 
the port will charge even if the 6 pin isnt connected
though i didnt test the actual difference
from my last build to new build
last without 6 pin connected and new with it connected
there may also be a bios and/or windows setting to configure
as wall charging my s8 ultra gets super fast charging
and shows 1 hour 8 minutes to full
front usb-c port shows fast charging and 1 hour 42 minutes to full
011d xl case and crosshair viii extreme board
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
the port will charge even if the 6 pin isnt connected
though i didnt test the actual difference
from my last build to new build
last without 6 pin connected and new with it connected
there may also be a bios and/or windows setting to configure
as wall charging my s8 ultra gets super fast charging
and shows 1 hour 8 minutes to full
front usb-c port shows fast charging and 1 hour 42 minutes to full
011d xl case and crosshair viii extreme board
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Thanks for info, and yes my current 15 year old pc even charges, but very very slow. I read something somewhere about 60w charging, I think that was on the Haf 700 Evo case though........am I right the ports have nothing to do with the charging capabilities and its down to motherboard? Corsair probably using the 60w charging capabilities thing as marketing......

Did you configure anything in bios/windows when you setup your new build with the 6 pin connected? As I though it would just be a case of plugin in cable...? Also what is the 6 pin cable called please? I was thinking of getting a white one, but now thinking of it, might leave it as standard black in the white case, as i will have a 24pin lian li strimmer next to it, so it might look a bit odd in white, even though the case is white?
 
Teeeeee said:
Thanks for info, and yes my current 15 year old pc even charges, but very very slow. I read something somewhere about 60w charging, I think that was on the Haf 700 Evo case though........am I right the ports have nothing to do with the charging capabilities and its down to motherboard? Corsair probably using the 60w charging capabilities thing as marketing......

Did you configure anything in bios/windows when you setup your new build with the 6 pin connected? As I though it would just be a case of plugin in cable...? Also what is the 6 pin cable called please? I was thinking of getting a white one, but now thinking of it, might leave it as standard black in the white case, as i will have a 24pin lian li strimmer next to it, so it might look a bit odd in white, even though the case is white?
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only built it over xmas
so not really got into all the minor bios settings yet as charging from pc
isnt high on my list of needs as i have wall plugs mounted at monitor height for charging stuff
my motherboard says same as yours
need to connect the 6 pin to enable full 60w
though no mention of whether the cable connecting to the front io ports
must be of a certain type/quality/standard to allow 60w charging
its definitely not charging slowly
but also not as fast as my samsung wall charger
its a standard 6 pin pcie connector
same as i answered in your other post sort of idea
i used a 6 + 2 pin connector from the psu but didnt connect the extra 2 pins
 
I'd be careful when charging via front port, as the front panel cables are probably very thin, might melt or burn out....? I've asked overclockers through a support ticket, see what they come back with?

Did you update your bios on your X670E Hero? My motherboard has come with an old bios, do you have to use a usb 2 drive to update bios? How did you update the bios?
 
my board is x570 crosshair viii extreme
so not an identical board to yours
but was a £900 board when it was new so it still features
some of the same stuff latest generation boards have
and yes i did update my bios
you should have the option to update bios
either in windows i think in armory crate possibly
or by usb
by usb i normally just use a 2.0 flash drive
as such small file not worth the bother of using my fastest 3.0 flash drives
a lot of people dont like bios flash in windows
in the old days yeah i would use exclusively usb to do it
but now if your board has a bios flash option that doesnt even require a cpu etc inserted
if it goes wonky in windows its no big deal to fix unlike years ago
the usb c front cable on the 011d xl certainly isnt thin no idea about the evo
but mines quite a bit thicker than the usb cable on my samsung charger
 
PD works by raising voltage rather than current really, so cable thickness shouldn't be much of an issue. It should be appropriately rated cable presumably.

Think about a typical laptop charger cable - very thin, but can do 4.5A at 19V for almost 90W.
 
4w rear usb c
11.5w front usb c
15w samsung wall charger
using accubattery on my phone

3.5w rear usb c
8.5w front usb c
19w samsung wall charger on s8 ultra using accubattery

i would say some of these modern devices probably have some sort of
battery control system
so may not allow full charging power if above a certain %
though thats just my guess
but those quick tests with accubattery all showed front usb c
is definitely delivering more than my rear usb c
though no where near 60w but i have no idea how many watts my phone or tablet can draw at maximum
i doubt i have anything i could plug into usb c that requires a very high wattage

will have to look in the bios i guess
in case theres some setting for the front usb c charging power
not really my area of expertise so no idea
how accurate accubattery is

Edit
Nothing in my bios to control it
So guess it's always on/at 60w capabilities
Providing you connect the 6 pin from the psu of course
And you would need to know for definite that you have a PD 60w cable
And a device requires that amount of power
A usbc PD laptop or something I guess
 
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Samsung S8 isn't compatible with PD. Samsung went with their own implementation called QuickCharge (QC). So until the last couple of generations they weren't cross-compatible.

Plus, a phone will only ever draw up to something like 30W and max 9 or 12V. Whereas a laptop will demand 19V PD which can then go to higher wattages.

It's all about the protocols they use and the negotiation/handshake between devices. 60W is a laptop charging range really, not phones.
 
LuckyBenski said:
Samsung S8 isn't compatible with PD. Samsung went with their own implementation called QuickCharge (QC). So until the last couple of generations they weren't cross-compatible.

Plus, a phone will only ever draw up to something like 30W and max 9 or 12V. Whereas a laptop will demand 19V PD which can then go to higher wattages.

It's all about the protocols they use and the negotiation/handshake between devices. 60W is a laptop charging range really, not phones.
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Thanks didn't realise about the s8
And yeah don't think I have anything available really to test this
Any further to try to help the op

The speed ports deliver is of more interest to me
Than amount of wattage
Even that's confusing as this board seems to pack 20Gbs front usbc
And 40Gbs rear thunderbolt
Yet none of them are pushing my t7 over 750MBs
Yet my old board maxed it out at about 1050MBs
Too many different standards of usb and stuff gives you a headache
Was looking at 2GBs external drive but now if my 1GBs t7 isn't maxed out
Can't see why a 2GBs drive will even though the board says it can
 
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