CBT Information?

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Hello guys.

I've recently been considering getting a 125CC scooter for to and from work however I think I'd be nervous on a bike. Did any of you feel this way before you actually got one and did your CBT?

I kind of see bikes as unsafe, yeah I know it's only a 125CC but still. I am taking driving lessons but it's going to be a while before a pass, whereas if I get a bike I can just do my CBT and be on the roads fairly quickly.

Is it possible to fail a CBT? From what I've heard they're fairly simple but how do they treat people who don't have much experience on the roads at all?

Cheers
 
The CBT is not a test .. Its exactly what it says "Basic training" . I would suggest its better to take on a geared bike and its no more unsafe than a scooter but its what yer comfortable with .

So unless you have no idea and a liability you cant fail . And if you dont reach the low basic standard most schools will give another day (free) to get you your cbt .

Persil
 
Thanks for the reply - I do think I'd feel more comfy on a scooter tbh. Atleast you don't have to get use to a clutch and gears again.
 
Yah CBT basicly stands for Compulsary basic Training, What this consists of is a group of skills you must learn to be able to competently ride a motor cycle with L plates on the road. Most schools wont alow you to progress to the next stage unless you can show you can confidently do the current one, So if you cant get the bike moving without having issues they will learn on this until you can.

I have done 2 simply as one ran out, and to be honest its a great laugh.

Where are you based about? people could possibly recomend a good local school
 
Bryan's (next to the Britannia Stadium) is where I did mine - also had my driving lessons with them. Unfortunately the main instructor I had for my CBT was involved in a fatal accident at the TT but the other instructors that were there were fantastic aswell!
 
I was very nervous (did CBT 2 weeks ago). I would personally heartily recommend learning on a proper geared bike. As in, if you're going to do a job, do it right (you wouldn't consider getting an automatic drivers license I presume .. so why is a bike any different?).

All I can say about the nerves is they just get better and better and better. With confidence, really, the only way is up. Oh, and no matter how hard you jam on the brakes on a 125, you won't go over the handlebars! And if you get in trouble just pull the brake and stop!

I almost guarantee I was more nervous than you currently are. Where as now I get actually excited about the ride home. I just don't do much of the filtering or overtaking you see a lot of bikes do yet.

Also if you make a mistake like stalling the bike (I was very nervous about that).. it's only really as bad as if you stalled a car. All that's going to happen is the car behind you is gonig to stop and wait for you to get the engine started again. No big deal. It's not as if some 40 ton lorry is going to think 'I won't bother breaking I'll just run the chap over'!! He'll see your L-plates, and he'll get over it! Easy!

When you first start the CBT you'll feel MORE nervous for about 1.5 hours -- then, as you start to 'get it' .. it just gets easier and actually fun!
 
We were to be there from 7.45 start at 8 and finish at 5.30 with a 30min lunch, i was at home for 3pm tho LOL its an all day afair
 
5abr3 said:
Bryan's (next to the Britannia Stadium) is where I did mine - also had my driving lessons with them. Unfortunately the main instructor I had for my CBT was involved in a fatal accident at the TT but the other instructors that were there were fantastic aswell!
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I had mine here too, great place.

Didn't know about the instructor though! :(
 
Me = from 8am to 5:30pm technically, but he gave me my certificate at 3:30pm and told me I could go. He seemed more confident about me than I was!!

Yes you get breaks. It's relatively easy going and nice affair unless you start messing around (like a kid did - going up to third gear when we were supposed to be just learning to just pull away in first then stop). Needless to say the instructor went absolutely ballistic at the kid. You treat them with respect, they'll treat you with respect. You're a customer remember! You're paying them!
 
I did my CBT about a month ago on a 400cc. The instructors suggested this as i intend on doing my DA next year, and he said better i get used to a bigger bike now.

You will be nervous but just listen to what they say and treat it as a practice session. If you not comfortable with something, tell the instructor and they will happily let you carry on practising. (Hopefully if your instructor was as good as mine.

As an aside, you should check out their where they do it and how big a practice area you have. If its a shoebox, you will not be able to properly practice going up and down through the gears before you go out on the road.

FYI my cost was £99 for the day.
 
Intel Guy said:
I did my CBT about a month ago on a 400cc. The instructors suggested this as i intend on doing my DA next year, and he said better i get used to a bigger bike now.

You will be nervous but just listen to what they say and treat it as a practice session. If you not comfortable with something, tell the instructor and they will happily let you carry on practising. (Hopefully if your instructor was as good as mine.

As an aside, you should check out their where they do it and how big a practice area you have. If its a shoebox, you will not be able to properly practice going up and down through the gears before you go out on the road.

FYI my cost was £99 for the day.
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The instructors let you ride a 400cc on the road to do a CBT :eek:
wow im shocked thats illegal
 
cyclops12 said:
The instructors let you ride a 400cc on the road to do a CBT :eek:
wow im shocked thats illegal
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Eye If thats the case I doubt he will be going much longer as an Instructor, From day one they wrote on my notes Im more suited to a bigger bike due to size and build but certianly wouldnt let me near one before I passed my CBT
 
DavieCramb01 said:
Eye If thats the case I doubt he will be going much longer as an Instructor, From day one they wrote on my notes Im more suited to a bigger bike due to size and build but certianly wouldnt let me near one before I passed my CBT
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Yep not even allowed to ride a 400cc on the road after passing a CBT
let alone before passing

The only way you can ride a RESTRICTED 400cc on the road on L's is during training for the DAS after you've passed your CBT
and only if you are accompanied by a certified motorcycle instructor on another motorcycle
 
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Yeah i thought it was strange, but he assured me that as i had confirmed my intention to do my CBT and because he was a qualified DA instructor i could ride it.

He did highlight that when on my own i was restricted to a 125.
 
Intel Guy said:
Yeah i thought it was strange, but he assured me that as i had confirmed my intention to do my CBT and because he was a qualified DA instructor i could ride it.

He did highlight that when on my own i was restricted to a 125.
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He was very wrong and very illegal , if he didnt know that he should'nt be teaching people too ride

I could be wrong on this bit so can be corrected but i dont think you can even ride the bigger bike on L's [ most have 500's not 400's ] until you apply for the DAS test
 
cyclops12 said:
He was very wrong and very illegal , if he didnt know that he should'nt be teaching people too ride

I could be wrong on this bit so can be corrected but i dont think you can even ride the bigger bike on L's [ most have 500's not 400's ] until you apply for the DAS test
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It's road riding lessons, normal practise for people that are uncomfortable on biger bikes, don't forget the DAS is a 2 day test prep, it is to do with the test, so just like any other licence, you are allowed to take further lessons to pick up on your driving skill.

Yes you are aloud L plates on 500cc's btw :)

As long as you are with a qualified instructor and it's in the books (meaning insurance covered and all that)

ags

edit: didnt realise the guy in question didnt have a CBT licence... in which case, yes it was illegal
 
Yes agnes i know you can do the 500's on L's after you've passed the CBT and your 21

But i think you have to apply for the DAS before you can jump on the bigger bikes

if your only going to do the normal test even if your 21 you cant ride the bigger bikes
then if you pass your restricted to 33bhp for two years though matter how old you are

edit - im not 100 % on that though :)
 
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If I remember correctly, the DAS are just 2 days to judge your riding to see if you are fit for the test, so you do day 1 and maybe have 3 or 4 days road riding if needed before your second day of das (which has your test in the evening almost every time, if not the morning after)

ags

This is the route I took:

Did my CBT (was nervous, very nervous as I had never ridden on the roads)
theory
DAS1
DAS2 followed by test that eve which I failed
re took DAS2+test and passed.

So overall, I did 3 days on the 500cc.

Which, lets be honest, is nothing... Which is why I stress upon people to do road riding before taking the test.

Road riding also includes more complex roads rather than just test routes.

ags
 
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