CCNA

I completed CCNA 1 + 2 as part of my National Diploma, it's a very good thing to have, I'm now looking at jobs with salaries of around £30k :D
 
Once I get a job with that kind of money, £30k etc, I'll definitely finish CCNA, and get some MCP's with it. MCP's need to be updated though, where CCNA lasts considerably longer, since networking just speeds up, whereas software has all sorts of features being added/removed/changed from version to version, no bigger change than that I've witnessed between win server 2003 to 2008.

oh and blackdragon, your CCNA stays "live", so to say, for 3 years.
 
Yeah still, involves the hassle of doing extra study on top of everything I have now and paying for something I don't currently need. Although I hope to take the exam when I get a job
 
I've completed the CCNA modules with my university as part of the CNAP course... but I'm yet to take the final examinations... they are well worth doing :)
 
Cyberstrike2027 said:
Once I get a job with that kind of money, £30k etc, I'll definitely finish CCNA, and get some MCP's with it. MCP's need to be updated though, where CCNA lasts considerably longer, since networking just speeds up, whereas software has all sorts of features being added/removed/changed from version to version, no bigger change than that I've witnessed between win server 2003 to 2008.

oh and blackdragon, your CCNA stays "live", so to say, for 3 years.
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Microsoft are bringing there exams in line with Cisco which means they have to be renewed every three years. Not sure if this is the case with the CCNA / CCNP but I'm assuming it is?

Also with the advent of IPv6 I'm assuming that's going to be another massive exam upgrade.



M.
 
Don't gamble on the fact that having a CCNA means you'll get a good job to start with, and please don't think you'll waltz into £30k with a CCNA and little experience because you won't... unless you're extremley lucky.
I keep saying it again and again, but these certs have been done to death to the point where there pretty worthless, I know it sounds harsh but its true.
The braindump culture and the I.T Bandwagon have created the impression that I.T (especially Cisco and Microsoft) is some kind of goldmine, it was 5+ years ago but not anymore, unless you're very good and have 5+ years experience a lot of people struggle to get past £30k.
If people accept that they may have to start out in a basic I.T position on £18k and work their way up, after a year or 2 and a CCNA you may start getting "on the ladder"
 
V-Spec said:
Don't gamble on the fact that having a CCNA means you'll get a good job to start with, and please don't think you'll waltz into £30k with a CCNA and little experience because you won't... unless you're extremley lucky.
I keep saying it again and again, but these certs have been done to death to the point where there pretty worthless, I know it sounds harsh but its true.
The braindump culture and the I.T Bandwagon have created the impression that I.T (especially Cisco and Microsoft) is some kind of goldmine, it was 5+ years ago but not anymore, unless you're very good and have 5+ years experience a lot of people struggle to get past £30k.
If people accept that they may have to start out in a basic I.T position on £18k and work their way up, after a year or 2 and a CCNA you may start getting "on the ladder"
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Yes you need experience. But experience coupled with a CCNA / MCSE is invaluable. With the experience you are saying you can do the job. With the qualification you can also prove it. One without the other is hard to prove to a prospoective employer.

However there are only 90,000 MCSE's World-wide so I can't see how that's done to death. I wouldn't like to guess how many there are in the UK but the majority would definately be in the US.



M.
 
As a "getting on the ladder" thing would it be recommended?
I've got a BSc Information Systems Technology but I've only worked 2 weeks in anything relevant due to my temp work nature...

I don't have any delusions of getting a certificate and starting a job as Bill Gates mkII, I'd just like some entry level support position... Maybe 17/18k per year so I can pay bills and start on my student loan payments.
 
Emlyn_Dewar said:
As a "getting on the ladder" thing would it be recommended?
I've got a BSc Information Systems Technology but I've only worked 2 weeks in anything relevant due to my temp work nature...

I don't have any delusions of getting a certificate and starting a job as Bill Gates mkII, I'd just like some entry level support position... Maybe 17/18k per year so I can pay bills and start on my student loan payments.
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I think you can get an entry level support position with just the degree. Keep trying.
 
Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer (MCSE)
Windows Server 2003 - 92,990
Windows 2000 - 288,563
Windows NT 4.0 - 395,752


MCSE NT4 are not valid
MCSE 2000 are not valid at the end of March

So 92,000 current MCSE 2003 people which, let's be honest, any employer in the right mind would want 2003 rather than 2000.



M.
 
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