CES 2025 Wishlist

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I’m looking for a new monitor to pair with a 5090 (in the future) and have been tempted by the 3rd gen 240fps OLEDs, of which there’s many choices. The ASUS models look to be the best to my mind, but they are pretty pricey - £1349 for the WOLED which I gather is best for non-gaming (work use) in the day.

CES is on the horizon and there will probably be perks on model refreshes. I’m assuming we’ll get 27” 4k OLEDs and also DP2.1 compatibility.

I think 27” might be a little more ‘desk friendly’ even though I have a deep desk. I currently have a 32” monitor and can find it a little intense for gaming at times.

I’m also interested in seeing any advances in screen films / panels. The pros and cons of the different OLED panels is a bit annoying to choose from at the moment, as I would ideally want a monitor for work as well as gaming. But I’m probably trying to have an everything all in one box when I’d be better off with different montors for gaming and work.

How about you lot? What are you hoping for / expecting to see?
 
@Nitefly was actually thinking the exact same thing as yourself in that I’d like to see some smaller 4k OLED monitors. I was considering by a 32” OLED but measuring it up on my desk it feels like it would be slightly too large for productivity apps ?

I feel like a 27/28” model would be a better size. Supposedly rumoured to be something that will be announced at CES so fingers crossed.
 
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59" OLED Ultrawide 8K

or 49" OLED Ultrawide 8K

Miniled monitors with over 8K dimming zones (Red Magic has one out at 5K) this would compete with OLED in different ways.

a 4K 240hz/1440p 480hz monitor on the same panel 27"
 
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I’d also like to see more ~40” ultrawide displays.

Ideally something with a 5120×2160 OLED display would be just about perfect IMO. That way it could handle 4k content natively.
 
silvagti said:
@Nitefly was actually thinking the exact same thing as yourself in that I’d like to see some smaller 4k OLED monitors. I was considering by a 32” OLED but measuring it up on my desk it feels like it would be slightly too large for productivity apps ?

I feel like a 27/28” model would be a better size. Supposedly rumoured to be something that will be announced at CES so fingers crossed.
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I have, just now, cycled through the following monitors on my desk with an FPS game in a dim-ish room... yes, these are lying around for some reason. And yes I did get my wife to stand around and measure :o :p
  • 24.5" 1080p: comfortable in-game viewing distance = 65cm
  • 27" 1440p: comfortable in-game viewing distance = 100cm
  • 32" 1440 (curved): comfortable in-game viewing distance = 135cm :eek:
I'm kind of amazes that it scaled so proportionately?!

The 32" as my 'work productivity monitor' and when I got it, I was always umm-ing and ahh-ing over whether I actually liked it, but decided to suck it up. Going through them now, it's by far away my least favourite of the 3, for my tastes. It's just too tall and I actually felt immediately motion sick when being too close. But you do just get used to whatever you had and I'm sure that anyone could make it work for them.

27" is the best, but 24.5" wasn't bad either. What's good about both is that you can move these forwards and backwards depending on what your doing... but I personally do need a lot of distance from the 32" to feel more comfortable.

So that's me waiting for the 27" 4K OLED then... arse.
 
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In case this is interesting for everyone, here’s some OLED news and rumours ahead of CES

tftcentral.co.uk

OLED News and Rumours Round-up for 2025 - TFTCentral

A round-up of news and rumours for OLED monitor development and launches in 2025 - higher refresh rate, DP 2.1 etc
tftcentral.co.uk tftcentral.co.uk

I can say with confidence that we will see 27” 4K and 45” WUHD monitors released in H1 next year and almost certainly several announced at CES next month

As for some of the other wishes like 8K panels etc, I’m afraid not any time soon
 
At least 39" ultrawide 5160x2160 and 240Hz OLED.

That's my end game resolution, refresh and size rage.

I don't care what VRR it uses as it will certainly have VRR flicker so I will continue to run with VRR off and leverage the 240Hz and 4090's brute force to mitigate noticing any tearing etc like I currently do with 32" 4K.
 
mrk said:
At least 39" ultrawide 5160x2160 and 240Hz OLED.

That's my end game resolution, refresh and size rage.

I don't care what VRR it uses as it will certainly have VRR flicker so I will continue to run with VRR off and leverage the 240Hz and 4090's brute force to mitigate noticing any tearing etc like I currently do with 32" 4K.
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They’ll come in time, but likely a year or so away I expect. 45” with those specs first before they push pixel density. The panels are planned though :)

The latest exciting OLED panel roadmaps
 
Baddass said:
In case this is interesting for everyone, here’s some OLED news and rumours ahead of CES

tftcentral.co.uk

OLED News and Rumours Round-up for 2025 - TFTCentral

A round-up of news and rumours for OLED monitor development and launches in 2025 - higher refresh rate, DP 2.1 etc
tftcentral.co.uk tftcentral.co.uk

I can say with confidence that we will see 27” 4K and 45” WUHD monitors released in H1 next year and almost certainly several announced at CES next month

As for some of the other wishes like 8K panels etc, I’m afraid not any time soon
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Thanks for the info BA, some pretty tasty stuff! :cool:
 
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Rumours for CES 2025

* 500hz QD-OLED panels

* 27 inch 4k panels

* More DP2.1 adoption

* Brighter panels thanks to new "MAX OLED technology"

* MAX OLED technology: a new way of placing OLED pixels and encapsulating them to achieve higher purity and higher PPI density
 
Baddass said:
In case this is interesting for everyone, here’s some OLED news and rumours ahead of CES

tftcentral.co.uk

OLED News and Rumours Round-up for 2025 - TFTCentral

A round-up of news and rumours for OLED monitor development and launches in 2025 - higher refresh rate, DP 2.1 etc
tftcentral.co.uk tftcentral.co.uk

I can say with confidence that we will see 27” 4K and 45” WUHD monitors released in H1 next year and almost certainly several announced at CES next month

As for some of the other wishes like 8K panels etc, I’m afraid not any time soon
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Improvements to max brightness and life time would be certainly welcome.
Though now why I'm suspecting it will be more than little time before that tech is actually more than vapourware...

But at least Monitors Unboxed's 9 month results in torture testing was pretty decent with minimal increase of visible pixel wear from 6 month mark.
 
5ubsonic said:
How many years until we get commercial MicroLED?!
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Don't hold your breath.

MicroLEDs are microscopic size traditional inorganic LEDs, which must be manufactured separately like normal LEDs and then positioned and attached accurately to monitor panel backplane/substrate.
And 4K panels needs doing that for ~25 million individual LEDs!
That should give some idea of the level of manufacturing complexity.

Electroluminescent mode quantum dots are more promising prospect to get into consumer markets.
Panels with those could be made with similar production techniques to current panels/their parts.
 
Looks like there's a lot of folks asking for 27" 4k, I'm curious to know what (Windows/UI) scaling folks would run at for such monitors. Obviously viewing distance and desk/room layouts differ, but I assume the 27" 4k folks sit right in front of their monitors at a desk. And potentially with scaling above 100%.

Personally I've always used monitors at 100% scaling, else I feel like I'm losing potential benefits to productivity and being able to see more content on screen at a given moment. My current 27" 1440p is just about fine. Sometimes I wish the text was a bit bigger (my monitor is over a meter away due to room layout). Based on that, I'd still want the same pixel density on a 4k screen which puts me at needing 40"+ sizes for a 4k monitor to be used at 100% scaling.

So personally I'm looking at 4k monitors over 40" with 144Hz+ refresh rates, based on my own use case. While there are a handful of larger 4k OLED monitors out there, they don't have the same performance as smaller 32" 4k OLEDs, they don't hit 144Hz and similarly the 4k OLED TVs don't go above 120Hz, in addition to not having DP. I wouldn't wish to downgrade my refresh rate to below 144Hz, since that's what I'm used to.

I found this website useful for understanding what size of monitor gives me similar pixel density (there's a table down below):
www.displayninja.com

What Is Pixel Density And Pixels Per Inch (PPI)? [Simple]

What does pixel density and pixels per inch (PPI) mean? Here's everything you need to know so you can make the best possible buying decision.
www.displayninja.com www.displayninja.com
 
mahius said:
Looks like there's a lot of folks asking for 27" 4k, I'm curious to know what (Windows/UI) scaling folks would run at for such monitors. Obviously viewing distance and desk/room layouts differ, but I assume the 27" 4k folks sit right in front of their monitors at a desk. And potentially with scaling above 100%.

Personally I've always used monitors at 100% scaling, else I feel like I'm losing potential benefits to productivity and being able to see more content on screen at a given moment. My current 27" 1440p is just about fine. Sometimes I wish the text was a bit bigger (my monitor is over a meter away due to room layout). Based on that, I'd still want the same pixel density on a 4k screen which puts me at needing 40"+ sizes for a 4k monitor to be used at 100% scaling.

So personally I'm looking at 4k monitors over 40" with 144Hz+ refresh rates, based on my own use case. While there are a handful of larger 4k OLED monitors out there, they don't have the same performance as smaller 32" 4k OLEDs, they don't hit 144Hz and similarly the 4k OLED TVs don't go above 120Hz, in addition to not having DP. I wouldn't wish to downgrade my refresh rate to below 144Hz, since that's what I'm used to.

I found this website useful for understanding what size of monitor gives me similar pixel density (there's a table down below):
www.displayninja.com

What Is Pixel Density And Pixels Per Inch (PPI)? [Simple]

What does pixel density and pixels per inch (PPI) mean? Here's everything you need to know so you can make the best possible buying decision.
www.displayninja.com www.displayninja.com
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Samsung's line up of OLED's all support 144hz 4K but correct on no DP
 
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