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Ihow3y

Ihow3y

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Hi guys, new to the forum and potentially to PC gaming. Iv always been a gamer, mostly on xbox and ps4. Currently running both the xbox1x and the ps4pro. Now here come the real reason for my post

After the current E3 showing of the project scarlett xbox, me and a group of friends talked about using the same sort of money required to purchase that on release day, and put it into a gaming PC instead. Our budget would be roughly in between 500-600 pounds and would only consist of the PC itself, monitors, mouse, keyboards and headsets wont be included.
Our challenge now is to make the best gaming PC we can from that budget, whether it be 2nd hand/refurbished parts or new. Hopefully to notice a difference over our current console setups, and to have room to upgrade at a later date of needed

Can it be done? Can you guys help me?
 
I dont expect it to be a weapon of mass destruction for the price we will be paying. But I thought it would be a little better than mediocre if I'm honest. Ideally something to outshine both the x and the pro, and come next year when the next gen cone out we could upgrade to keep ahead for a smaller price. Thanks for taking the time to answer my question though, much appreciated
 
You cant beat the consoles for the same money, imo. Probably looking £700 ish, with a Ryzen CPU, Vega 56 card, 16GB 3000 RAM, small SSD.
 
Thanks for the heads up. But lets face it, once we start we will all be putting in them extra pennies to try and beat one another :D
It could cost some of us as much as 1k and were never gonna admit it. Same scenario as the wife, cost half as much to build when she asks! Been the same story for the last 4 years with my car ;)
 
group of freinds, are you going to use on a time share?? :confused:

oh your all going to get one..sorry my bad.. yeah £500 forget it, it wont be impressive
 
Once Zen2 Ryzens start selling in month there should be good choise of second hand parts available.
 
Hopefully yeah. I dont mind searching the likes of Ebay and such for deals. It's not something I plan on building tomorrow, more so just acquiring the parts as and when I can find suitable
 
£500 for the PC itself would probably build up well if you used the expected slew of Ryzen Zen+ parts. The fact you need peripherals will cost you a small fortune.
There is also no point buying something really cheap now to tide you over as ultimately you'll end up spending the "right" money down the line anyway so better just to gulp down and buy big first time.

£700 is probably a rough price for the base unit, more like £1k once you're done with "extras".
 
Thanks for that. Without throwing the "master race" card around. Say if I spent between 700-1000 how much better over the console am I gonna actually get. I mainly only play online games. Battlefield, Call Of Duty, PUBG and sometimes throw in a bit of racing games, GT and Forza. All games which are pretty heavy dependant on graphics and FPS
 
So here's what I have up to now, I have myself a monitor already and missing my OS and keyboard/mouse and a headset. Anyone care to look over this and tell me how good/bad it is. My budget is already blown out the water, so needn't worry too much now

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/checkout/cart

I'm unsure if that's how I oost my basket in the forum but hopefully it works. Any help or criticism is welcome as I'm still new to this sort of thing coming from the consoles
 
Your cart doesn't show up with that link. Look for the BBCode button in your basket, click it to copy the contents, then right-click and paste in this thread.
 
Thanks a bunch, I was viewing it on the mobile site, hopefully this works lol

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/zota...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-11c-zt.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-...ocket-am4-ddr4-atx-motherboard-mb-33s-ms.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/amd-...hz-socket-am4-processor-retail-cp-3af-am.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...al-channel-kit-grey-tlgd416g30-my-087-tg.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cors...lar-power-supply-cp-9020178-uk-ca-249-cs.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/wd-b...-solid-state-drive-wds500g2b0a-hd-54h-wd.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/seag...nternal-hard-drive-st2000dm008-hd-3a5-se.html
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/koli...ack-tempered-glass-side-window-ca-036-kk.html

I tried copying th BBcode but it left half my basket out, sorry again if this doesn't work. Il wait till I get home and use the computer instead of my phone
 
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Ihow3y said:
Thanks for that. Without throwing the "master race" card around. Say if I spent between 700-1000 how much better over the console am I gonna actually get. I mainly only play online games. Battlefield, Call Of Duty, PUBG and sometimes throw in a bit of racing games, GT and Forza. All games which are pretty heavy dependant on graphics and FPS
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Well as consoles are limited to 30 fps, it will be an instant upgrade as PCs run up to an unlimited fps rate. If you have a 144hz monitor then your best off aiming at building a computer which can get to that fps to get the best out of your monitor.

For first person shooter games like call of duty, battlefield 144hz will definitely serve you well over a 60hz monitor.
 
Yeah I have a 144hz monitor already, which I run both my consoles through. So would really like to be able to use that to it's full potential. I know I havent placed my basket right in the post above so dont know if you can actually make out what's there and what isnt. But would you realistically say it would be comfortable running them sort of frames?
 
This is your basket right now:

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £900.12 (includes shipping: £13.20)
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If you ditched the 2TB HDD to buy that later on and drop in whenever you have some loose change, and changed the PSU, and don't need Wifi, you could do something like:

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £903.15 (includes shipping: £12.30)
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Thanks a lot for that, no I dont need wifi on the pc. You reckon that would be more than capable of handling all the big game FPS. Thanks for taking the time in helping me out, would that still be fine for some low key video editing , mainly track day videos
 
Ihow3y said:
Can it be done? Can you guys help me?
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Playing games is the only goal?

Get the best value for money graphics card you can get, and build the rest of the system with remaining budget.

  • Ryzen 5 2600 inc cooler.
  • 16GB DDR4 3000MHz RAM
  • 480GB SSD
  • B450 Motherboard
  • 500w PSU (min bronze rated with 36-40A on 12v rail)
  • Case.

You can get that lot above for ~£340, I've seen Geforce GTX 1070's sell for £160 or less, you'd be hard pushed to do more than 1440p however, and graphical setting would probably be similar to a console. If you went up to £230, you could get a GTX 1080 or similar Vega.

The other route is to buy an old Dell/HP workstation from auction with a fast Xeon or i7 in it for ~£150, then buy an RTX 2070/ Radeon 5700XT. Base system won't last as long but ultimatley you'll end up with a system that is faster in avg. framerates but may suffer in the 1%'s on heavily threaded titles. :)
 
Ihow3y said:
Thanks a lot for that, no I dont need wifi on the pc. You reckon that would be more than capable of handling all the big game FPS. Thanks for taking the time in helping me out, would that still be fine for some low key video editing , mainly track day videos
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Yes.

What you should do is look at benchmarks for your favourite games. In some games a cheaper Vega 56 (Sapphire Pulse) does very well. You'd want a good 650W PSU for Vega 56 by the way. There's also the RX 5700 but I would wait for the non-blower models to come out. That one should be fine with 550W but need to see reviews for non-blower cards which could use more power.

Have a look at Hardware Unboxed's review which includes Vega 56, RTX 2060 Super and RX 5700 and 5700XT:

 
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