Changes to the date of the first MOT test (an open consultation).

I know it isn’t I didn’t ask you your opinion to be fair lol.
Nobody asked you yours but yet again you've managed top poster in a thread where you've said pretty much nothing:
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Going back to the actual OP, so this debate is on whether the first MOT for a car should be extended from 3 to 4 years? What an absolutely pointless thing to be wasting time on debating on so many levels. No it should remain at 3 years. Done.
 
Going back to the actual OP, so this debate is on whether the first MOT for a car should be extended from 3 to 4 years? What an absolutely pointless thing to be wasting time on debating on so many levels. No it should remain at 3 years. Done.
Not only that but they want to extend annual testing to bi annual.
 
Should be left as-is, if someone can afford a car less than 3 years old, they can afford to get it tested. Tests should remain annual and they should remove the 40 year exemption and make classic cars undertake a cutdown roadworthiness test.

Would like to see MOTs move towards the model that some euro nations have, with government funded/run testing stations (the MOT factory style that was mentioned earlier in the thread).

Prices do need to rise - no idea how companies make any money from testing at the moment. I had my car serviced yesterday and for the MOT they took it to a separate company - £25, so cheap.
 
I disagree with moving to bi-annual as well. Some people run cars literally until they brake, dangerously so and moving further away than a year will only make the roads more dangerous with poorly maintained cars.

The MOT stations that offer £25 tests - there are some near me - typically in my experience tend to be stricter and find more faults and offer plenty of advisory work to recoup money that way. Just my experience.
 
Going back to the actual OP, so this debate is on whether the first MOT for a car should be extended from 3 to 4 years? What an absolutely pointless thing to be wasting time on debating on so many levels. No it should remain at 3 years. Done.

I think it is more about the government being seen to be "doing" things about cost of living rather than anything related to what makes sense vehicle wise.
 
A bit of a debatable one but personally not in favour as it would likely increase the number of people either driving without one or other dodgy ways to get around it.

Surely it would be the fact they know it will fail which is making them looking for ways around it? An extra £5-10 for a test isn't going to be a factor if the car is going to need £XXX of repairs.

Should be left as-is, if someone can afford a car less than 3 years old, they can afford to get it tested. Tests should remain annual and they should remove the 40 year exemption and make classic cars undertake a cutdown roadworthiness test.

Absolutely this - £4.60/month is utterly insignificant compared to the purchase cost/monthly payments for a new/nearly new car
 
Surely it would be the fact they know it will fail which is making them looking for ways around it? An extra £5-10 for a test isn't going to be a factor if the car is going to need £XXX of repairs.

Depends what kind of rises we are talking - but if they went up inline with the kind of price increases many garages are doing with work in general and/or the way a lot of stuff is increasing it would be quite a bit more than an extra £5-10. Most garages could if they wanted to put the MOT price up £5-10 within the current max anyhow - most places around here are £40-45 for cars and vans, some still haven't increased from £35. The Nissan dealer I use a lot is £54 for a large 4x4 but £44 for a car.

As before I don't know what it is like in the country as a wider thing but I'd have a lot more sympathy with price increases like that if garages generally were fairly reasonable but several of the ones around here for instance will happily charge someone approx. £60 to change wiper blades, etc.
 
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Depends what kind of rises we are talking - but if they went up inline with the kind of price increases many garages are doing and/or the way a lot of stuff is increasing it would be quite a bit more than an extra £5-10. Most garages could if they wanted to put the MOT price up £5-10 within the current max anyhow - most places around here are £40-45 for cars and vans, some still haven't increased from £35. The Nissan dealer I use a lot is £54 for a large 4x4 but £44 for a car.

As before I don't know what it is like in the country as a wider thing but I'd have a lot more sympathy with price increases like that if garages generally were fairly reasonable but several of the ones around here for instance will happily charge someone approx. £60 to change wiper blades, etc.
yep 35 here and has been for me for last few years. sometimes even pick up and deliver back car. family run . i always try to use family garages for mot , when i retired , the mot station owner i dealt with retired within a couple of years, 25 quid a time. then i statred using another local garage i had previously done work for and they went up to 35 eventually, was i bothered ..no because the lvl of service was good. they stopped doing mots a couple of years ago due to increasing costs of new equipment, and as john says the tester was more than happy to go back to spanners.
they recomended another station also family run and they have been just as good at 35 . would i pay more ..yep if i had to its once a year , i like to think if i missed something they may pick it up.
i know from people in the trade that some folk dont do services anymore and only repair what is highlighted on the mot, some of them from what john posted are horrendous, would you want the test extended to 2 years, ye gods i hate to think of the potential accidents that could occur.
 
I love my MOT guy. I take it for the test and if there's something that I haven't picked up on he'll call me over. If it's relatively cheap and quick to fix I tell him to sort it and generally he'll knock a fail down to advisory because the car doesn't leave til it's fixed anyway so there's no point in failing it to have to test it again because he knows it ain't leaving till it's fixed.

He's never seen me wrong and for that I always see him right...
 
I love my MOT guy. I take it for the test and if there's something that I haven't picked up on he'll call me over. If it's relatively cheap and quick to fix I tell him to sort it and generally he'll knock a fail down to advisory because the car doesn't leave til it's fixed anyway so there's no point in failing it to have to test it again because he knows it ain't leaving till it's fixed.

He's never seen me wrong and for that I always see him right...
That's all fine and dandy until a DVSA inspector wanders in and retests your car and then asks why the tester didn't fail it.
Then the tester will get points on his license (or worse a 28 day ban) and won't be a happy bunny.
Such a dumb thing to do for saving himself 5 minutes to retest the car.
 
Was gonna say with the 2 most recent rounds of changes to tightening up MOT practises you really don't want to be doing that kind of thing any more.
 
Needs to go the other way and cars tested from day one tbh, but just less checks on new cars (focus on stuff like headlights!). Then reduce the price of an MOT.
 
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I love my MOT guy. I take it for the test and if there's something that I haven't picked up on he'll call me over. If it's relatively cheap and quick to fix I tell him to sort it and generally he'll knock a fail down to advisory because the car doesn't leave til it's fixed anyway so there's no point in failing it to have to test it again because he knows it ain't leaving till it's fixed.

He's never seen me wrong and for that I always see him right...
'Semi-crooked' MOT testers are a bit like folk being born as Labour but growing into being Conservative.
 
Leave as is, there's nothing wrong with the way it's done, except there are clearly some dodgy places about.
So much of the test is so easy to fiddle it’s down to the integrity of the person testing but all in all I think the standard is pretty good.
 
I actually thought the software used only allowed 1 car every hour.
You can complete an MOT in 2 minutes if you want, but expect a visit from the DVSA.
As long as a tester is logged into the test for 30 minutes then there’s no problem from the inspectors.
I complete most in 25 minutes or so, but stay logged in for another 10 minutes.
 
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