Changing the Cluth in a Vauxhall Vectra

Styles · 17 Aug 2006 at 21:04

Am I correct in thinking that the engine needs to come out? This is what i've been told.

Oxbow · 17 Aug 2006 at 21:25

depends on the engine. Is it a 2litre or 1.8 variant and what model year?

EDIT: sorry, forgot to put....."as in most cases of the Vectra up to the new latest model, yes, its around a 5 hour job as the engine needs to be removed or at least hoisted".

Sorry

[TW]Fox · 17 Aug 2006 at 22:00

Ahaha, don't they have a 40k cambelt change as well?

Only Vauxhall could produce a mass market motorway muncher which requires an engine removal every 40,000 miles.

Dandle · 17 Aug 2006 at 22:36

[TW]Fox said:
Ahaha, don't they have a 40k cambelt change as well?

Only Vauxhall could produce a mass market motorway muncher which requires an engine removal every 40,000 miles.

While I agree that 40k is a bit soon for a modern engine to need a belt change. The engine doesnt need to come out. The book times for models with timing belts is between 80minutes for the 1.8 up to 150minutes for the 2.5 v6 from the Vectra B which isnt bad at all(the Vectra C has the same times although obviously theres no 2.5 in the range).

L33 · 17 Aug 2006 at 23:06

I managed to change the clutch on my old car by lowering the subframe slightly and dropping the gearbox out, the whole engine does not need to come out ('98 SRI 2.0 X20XEV engine, F18 box) but it will need to be supported.
Its not a nice job!

Oxbow · 18 Aug 2006 at 08:56

[TW]Fox said:
Ahaha, don't they have a 40k cambelt change as well?

Only Vauxhall could produce a mass market motorway muncher which requires an engine removal every 40,000 miles.

Engine out for a cambelt? Thats a new one on me. Having said that, on the x20xev models with the CR230 box, they are likely to need a new clutch around the 70-80k mark

L33 · 18 Aug 2006 at 10:07

[TW]Fox said:
Ahaha, don't they have a 40k cambelt change as well?

Only Vauxhall could produce a mass market motorway muncher which requires an engine removal every 40,000 miles.

Dont know where you heard this but I changed belt/tensioners/waterpump etc etc etc alone in about 2 hours, certainly no engine removal

Styles · 18 Aug 2006 at 13:35

Whoa only talking about the clutch here ppl! The engine doesn't need to be removed for the cambelt to be changed I've had this done three times since owning the car?

How much am I looking at for the clutch and assembly then?

[TW]Fox · 18 Aug 2006 at 18:58

L33 said:
Dont know where you heard this

Errr, its in the opening post

My comment was based upon it being true, I take half of it back if it isnt but still stand by the fact a 40k cambelt interval on a car designed to sit on the Motorway is apalling, but to be expected from Vauxhall.

Dandle · 18 Aug 2006 at 21:01

[TW]Fox said:
Errr, its in the opening post

My comment was based upon it being true, I take half of it back if it isnt but still stand by the fact a 40k cambelt interval on a car designed to sit on the Motorway is apalling, but to be expected from Vauxhall.

It isn't. You mention the cam belt then say the engine needs to come out for it every 40k.

agw_01 · 18 Aug 2006 at 21:15

Dandle said:
It isn't. You mention the cam belt then say the engine needs to come out for it every 40k.

I think he meant that the engine has to come out for clutch replacement

I had to re-read it a few times before I fully understood what Fox meant.

Clarkey · 18 Aug 2006 at 21:20

40k cambelt interval? You are kidding surely! Thats the lowest i've ever heard, ridiculous for a vectra!

Third Opinion · 18 Aug 2006 at 21:27

Loads of manufacturers have revised their cam belt change interval. Peugeot and Alfa Romeo have brought their intervals down as low as 36K. Problem is old engines trying to compete with new engines and their service intervals.

Even the usually rock solid VW/Audi/Seat 1.8 engine has began breaking belts before the scheduled change. Not just a Vauxhall problem.

barnettgs · 18 Aug 2006 at 21:32

Which is why Clarkson is staying away from Vectra.

agw_01 · 18 Aug 2006 at 21:36

You see, this is why you should buy a Rover.

My old car was on 82,000 miles and on its original cambelt before I had it changed :eek:

Clarkey · 18 Aug 2006 at 22:22

I don't understand why a modern engine would break its cambelt at under 36k miles.

Even a Honda S2000 only needs a belt change at 72k (that could be completely wrong tbh, 5 second google answer), and that belt will be given a much harder punishment that a regular engine, revving up to 9k is going to require stiffer valve springs and as such greater forces on the cambelt.

Dandle · 18 Aug 2006 at 22:29

Clarkey said:
I don't understand why a modern engine would break its cambelt at under 36k miles.

Even a Honda S2000 only needs a belt change at 72k, and that belt will be given a much harder punishment that a regular engine, revving up to 9k is going to require stiffer valve springs and as such greater forces on the cambelt.

The S2000 has a chain mate.

Nikumba · 18 Aug 2006 at 22:45

You shouldnt need to move the engine to change hte clutch over.

I had mine done on 2.5v6 vectra and i can tell there is no room in the engine bay at all, but had it on the ramps and it was done in an hour or so.

Kimbie

Clarkey · 18 Aug 2006 at 22:49

Dandle said:
The S2000 has a chain mate.

Couldn't be more wrong then eh, that google result said belt though, the 2.2 in the US model has a belt maybe?

Anyway, numerous high performance jap motors have belt intervals of 60k.

Third Opinion · 18 Aug 2006 at 22:52

Nikumba said:
You shouldnt need to move the engine to change hte clutch over.

I had mine done on 2.5v6 vectra and i can tell there is no room in the engine bay at all, but had it on the ramps and it was done in an hour or so.

Kimbie

According to Honest John replacing the clutch is a five to six hour job. The old Cavalier was an hour job but not the Vetra according to all the reports.

Maybe the V6 is different?