Charging for websites

xirokx

xirokx

xirokx

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Hi,

Wondered how much ppl charge for creating websites like for example:

a) the designing aspect
b) the coding aspect

and then how long is 1 required to maintain it for until they can recharge?

I hope im not generalising as I guess whether you use php, asp, mysql etc etc is involved determines how much the price increases...i dont know does it?

All feedback would be appreciatd...

thanks
 
Generally the price will depend on the size/complexity of the site.

For support/maintenance you usually can agree a set fee for a set time, eg a year with X amount of minor changes. Be careful what you agree to cover in the maintenance though, they might expect a redesign for free within those twelve months..!
 
i hear ya, thanks for the advice

how about pricing tho? I know it depends on several influencing factors but lets say:

a) straightforward - css, divs, html, designing of logo, resizing images and text
b) medium - all the above but with javascript, simple php forms
c) complex - flash, php,javascript and other things i prob cant do - lol

could you attempt to price these kinda jobs for me, showing seperate fees for minor maintenance etc etc

thanks i appreciate it..
 
You go about it by calculating the man-hours it will take to develop the site, choosing a rate per hour for developing it, and using these to get a quote you will give to the client.

For example, if its a simple site, say, consisting of a home page with introduction, an about page with about section, and a contact page, it will be relatively quick to put together.

Say - for example - 2 days work at 8 hours a day, makes 16 hours and you choose your rate, depending on experience, need for money, amount of business prospects at the moment etc.

Obviously more complex sites will take longer and so you charge more for them.

Hope this helps! Good luck :cool:
 
xirokx,
Lay off the Flash and java script... search engines don't like it... and will increasingly dislike it....

HTML, PHP, CSS, CSS layers are all good
Flash, Javascript, frames are BAD

Saying that, you can allways charge them an extra SEO (Search Engine Optimisation) fee.....;)
 
yoda said:
Flash, Javascript, frames are BAD
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What makes you say Javascript is 'BAD'? Are you talking just about SEO here, or web development in general? Javascript is an essential tool in web development, and it should be considered to be one the most basic components of designing a site.

Gone are the days when all javascript is used for is popups, popunders, alert-boxes and the rest of the black-hat developer's toolkit.

HTML for structure, CSS for presentation and Javascript for behaviour.
 
what is a fair hourly rate for a newbie/moderate comfortable individual taking into consideration *** huppy says?

thanks

p.s. just want some idea is like £15ph to high? or even £20?
 
probedb said:
Can you explain please. How does it hide them when you don't have it enabled?
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when jscript not enabled it shows some text (but no link), as it should.

the thing is if you publish an email address using mailto then you get all sorts of weird emails from useless people ... so either you use jscript to hide it (pretty good), a contact form (very good but cannot be everywhere on your site) or as an image (best) but that means people have to type in the email address and they may make a mistake and you lose business.

so it's a balancing act
 
Augmented said:
What makes you say Javascript is 'BAD'? Are you talking just about SEO here, or web development in general? Javascript is an essential tool in web development, and it should be considered to be one the most basic components of designing a site.

Gone are the days when all javascript is used for is popups, popunders, alert-boxes and the rest of the black-hat developer's toolkit.

HTML for structure, CSS for presentation and Javascript for behaviour.
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Javascript is bad for SEO....
I stick to HTML, CSS, PHP 99.9% of the time... occationally I have to use it... but max of one java chunk... < necessary evil :rolleyes:
 
KingAdora said:
As long as your website still works with JS disabled, how can it be bad for SEO.
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Because search engine spiders read the code thats passed to the client, which includes the java script....
now, most search engines can't read the JS and ignore it....
However, google and yahoo spiders give the site demerits every time they come across a JS chunk....
Same goes for Flash... Not sure about VB though...
 
yoda said:
Because search engine spiders read the code thats passed to the client, which includes the java script....
now, most search engines can't read the JS and ignore it....
However, google and yahoo spiders give the site demerits every time they come across a JS chunk....
Same goes for Flash... Not sure about VB though...
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show evidence for this .. or is it your opinion?
 
Google and Yahoo prefer separation..
Code: 
<link rel="script" type="text/javascript" href="file.js" />

is prefered over <script> blocks. They don't spider <links>
 
Dj_Jestar said:
Google and Yahoo prefer separation..
Code: 
<link rel="script" type="text/javascript" href="file.js" />

is prefered over <script> blocks. They don't spider <links>
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Unless you tell spiders to follow links...

blade007 said:
show evidence for this .. or is it your opinion?
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I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you....:rolleyes:
Try doing a search for SEO.... ;)
 
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