Cheap fun under 2/3k (mk1 Octavia VRS)

And herein lies the rub. Big power and speed doesn't always result in "fun" and "smiles". From what I've seen, as mainstream cars have got more powerful, they've also got a lot more capable, meaning that they can hit big speeds and do it fairly easily. The result being that to get real excitement from a genuinely fast car, you're typically talking about breaking the speed limit and potentially by a fair margin.
So for example, I now drive our E90 330i in "smooth" mode and find that very rewarding.

My MX5 (also used as a daily commuter) is where the real smiles are, and it's quite easy to get them at sensible speeds.

I feel like there's a fair few factors I'm not leading on i.e my job and a few other factors that play into it but I complete get your point. I've been pinballing around at various different ends of the markets but a consistent for me has been 4 doors and fair room. I'm fortunate enough to live on the coast with some lovely costal B roads so plenty of room to drive a bit less sensibly. I do get your point tho, guess I'm trying to balance on the cusp of sleeper I can also have fun in without buying a focus ST or ep3.
 
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