Cheap GPU For Now?

andeyknox

andeyknox

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Just need a cheap gpu to play games atm, i have a amd r9 380 2gb, and its okay but im wanting to start playing warzone and, New World ect and my pc just cant handle it without stuttering badly. Is there any cheap gpus i could use for now until maybe start of next year to play these games? doesnt have to play max settings ect just stably. Also i have a AOC 144hz monitor with freesync i dont know it that affects what gpus i can have or not? Thanks
 
Current pc is: Intel i5 4460, 8gb ram, 256gb ssd, 1tb HD, AMD R9 380 2GB. Anything else? and idk just something thatll run them sort of games. I know theres a shortage of GPUs atm and theyre a lot more expensive, was just wondering if theres any cheapish ones i could just use for now? Ive had this pc for about 7 8 years and i think it is on its way out lol, i probably will be buying a new one some point next year.
 
Joxeon said:
Try get a 3060ti FE for £369 as that's probably the best VFM GPU right now for price to performance.

If you want to bring things up to date for cheap then something like this would work nicely and give a solid upgrade path when funds allow.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £280.43 (includes shipping: £10.50)
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Thanks man!, will definitley look into it!, any other gpus to look out for? and also should i just keep my psu and hd/ssd for time being?
 
Craig_d1 said:
We just had a conversation on another thread regarding warzone. Nick9one1 just got a 3080ti but was getting poor fps with a r5 3600. He had some old ram but after a bit of delving, warzone turns out to be very CPU intensive and looks like his CPU was throttling performance. That and rust(his other game of choice, also CPU intensive). May be worth a little searching to see how a 3060ti performs with the 3600, as saving a bit more and stretching to a b550/5600x combo may give another jump in performance for that game
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Okay thanks! Does anyone have any knowledge of the new game New World? What would you suggest specs to play that? I tried it during the beta and my fps was fluctuating from 40 to 20 and had constant stutters? I'd like to play it as a lot of my friends will be but at the mo my pc just can't run it enjoyabley.
 
lsg1r said:
It's the game that's supposedly frying 3090's and other higher end cards....might want to do a google on the issue although I have no first hand experience of it or the game.
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Ah yeah i heard that too it was just the evga cards i think? do you think my gpu should be able to play it if i upgrade my cpu mbo and ram?
 
Preytheon said:
The R9 380 was a bit of a beast in its day, but that was a LONG time ago... the good news is that your PSU will be fine for some pretty reasonable upgrades.

In terms of current budget GPUs:
GTX1050Ti - sideways step - VERY similar performance only worth considering if your 380 is actually dying and the budget is very tight.
GTX1060 3Gb - very small step up
GTX1060 6Gb - a very different card from the 3Gb and probably the first upgrade worth considering... also the first one that's really popular for mining...
GTX1070 / GTX1650Ti/super / GTX1660Ti/super - probably the sort of performance you're after, but we're talking £300+ for most of these in the current environment...

If you're set on upgrading your PC, then an RTX 3060 would probably be fine (similar power draw) and an RTX 3060Ti is only a small step up... but factor in a new PSU if there is any sign of power throttling... and when it comes to upgrading the rest, jsut don't consider an 11th gen Intel on that PSU (it's NOT a 65W CPU!!) :cry:

And don't go above a 3060Ti unless you're also upgrading the CPU - something like a RTX3080 will perform SLOWER than a 3060Ti in some games if the CPU can't cope with the driver overhead... the differences start emerging even with 9th gen i7's and are very evident for 4th gen i7's:

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Thanks for the informative reply man! the 5600x comes on the 4th, ill end up buying 16gb ram, would you reccommend the b450 or the b550 mbo for it? i think ill just re use my ssd, HD, psu and gpu for the time being until gpu prices go down unles you think there will be any problems with that?
 
Preytheon said:
A B450 would be fine if you find one at a bargain price, but otherwise you might as well go B550 - there used to be a £40-£50 premium for the B550, but that is gone now as you'll find the entry level B550's for £80-£100.

Don't worry about going for the top of the range boards - even the Asustek or the very entry level boards from the big manufacturers should be fine: personally I have a preference for Asus, but I won't bad-mouth anything else that I haven't researched. Likewise I have a preference of avoiding the WiFi/fancy extras unless there's something that I can't add of my own accord (you can keep the WiFi more up to date if it's just your own choice of PCI-E card). The only reason for going for anything more than the entry level is if you REALLY need 3 or 4 onboard NVME slots - clearly NOT your use-case!

Pro's and Con's:

The only "con" of the B550 is around price: a small price premium if you['re buying new. The main price difference now is due to being less likely to find a heavily discounted or second hand one.

The obvious pro's are the PCI-E gen4 for future upgrades (GPU + NVME) and some of the B550 boards have multiple NVME slots, which is a nice-to-have. The less obvious and my main reason is that the B550 spec for the VRM's is a nice little step up (I forget the exact changes, but that was the reason given for some of the initial price increases), which would allow you to upgrade to a 5900X or 5950X in a few years' time. Technically a B450 could handle those, but I gather that the older motherboard spec has the VRM's are a little stretched with the top-end CPU's. Not worth paying a huge premium for, but I like the idea of better VRM stability for the short term to have the BIG step up as an option later.

Honestly - the rest of the kit will probably be fine. If you're feeling flush and holding off for further GPU price-drops, I would recommend a small NVME as a boot drive - even something like a WD Blue SN550 (500Gb?) would absolutely wipe the floor with even the very best SSD... and you could still keep the SSD for games. I used to have pretty decent SSD's (2x Samsung 850 PRO's in RAID0) and I was blown away with how much faster the NVME's are.
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Appreciate all the feedback it really helps a lot mate! I can get a msi b550m pro-vdh wifi for around 68ish? or a b450 for about 55-60. Ill look into the NVME drives too. Thanks again mate!
 
I've gone with 5600x for 200, b550 msi vdh WiFi mobo for 68 and 16gb crucial ballistix 3600mhz ram for 67. Will these be OK and compatible with everything? I'm going to invest in a new Psu and a m.2 drive in about a months time aswell.
 
Alan McFall said:
My advice would to be to build a new system. Your upgrade options are very slim, anything current generation you'll experience bottlenecks even at 1440p.. i'd suggest you build a new system and wait for a GPU.

10 series GPU is your best bet if you don't want (not enough budget) to upgrade your system, model depends on your PSU and even then I would not buy now, wait upto 6 months.
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Would I still bottleneck playing 1080? That's all I'll be gaming at. Also what would bottleneck? Thanks for the reply!
 
Alan McFall said:
Yes, 1080p is a lot more CPU intensive than higher resolutions, the system just isn't fast enough to keep up with a modern GPU, 4 cores, no hyperthreading, slow ram, old architecture.. with a 3060 you'd likely be looking at performance comparable to a 10 series card, upto 30% fps loss, just a waste of money. You may even experience a serious bottleneck at 1080p with a 10 series card, around a gtx 970 is probably your ceiling and your current PSU would be enough to power it.

GTX 970 has 4gb of ram and is not fast enough to play modern games with high graphics or frame rates.
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Hi again, even with the new parts Im going to order? Ie 5600x 16gb ram new mobo? Just so I'm clear in understanding, all them with my current GPU (r9 290) and 550w Psu (for time being) 500gb ssd & 1tb HD would bottleneck?
 
Joxeon said:
Why not pre order one of those 3060ti's OCUK have listed for just over £400?
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Yeah like I say mate, I'll be getting a new GPU and most probably 30 series, moneys just abit tight atm so in a month or two I'll look into it. I was more just going to use my GPU atm until then, but I wasn't sure if what Alan was saying about bottlenecking was I'm regard to that? As I have no idea what that even is :cry:
 
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