Cheap upgrade from i5 4670K to pair with 2070 Super?

[AyeAyeAhoy!]

Budget? I went from an i7 [email protected] to a Ryzen 3600@stock (4.2Ghz) and COD MW and Warzone was like a different game.

The 3600 was an interim chip to Zen 3 but had I known a Ryzen 3600 would make that much difference I would have sold my Intel setup years ago

Wow, I'm still chugging along with the 4790k... Perhaps it's time to bite the bullet

 

[AyeAyeAhoy!]

(plus I just got a 3060ti, so should probably pair that with something better)

 

[krisboats]

No it wont. Even on lowest graphics settings, downtown would tank my FPS to high 40s on my i7 [email protected].
The 3600 held it steady at 90fps+ (which I cap because of 100Hz Gsync monitor)

I sold my 4790k, motherboard and RAM on an auction site (no names mentioned!) for £373.

Im sure that would have covered a 2nd hand 3600, motherboard and ram. I would personally sell your i5 4670K, motheerboard and ram and pay not much more for a 3600 with ram and mb

Yep, i get this too. My 4790k is showing its age and it does really hamper the performance of the card. I was concerned about my 2070 super being faulty and when testing in friends machine it was hitting much better and tremendously more stable framerates in games than it was in my machine.

 

[Guest2]

Wow, I'm still chugging along with the 4790k... Perhaps it's time to bite the bullet

Its not much of a bullet if you sell your 4790k. Replacing mb, cpu & ram was a lot easier than in the past too and os build was too.
Everything was much harder 10-20 years ago, even 5-10 years ago

 

[Guest2]

Yep, i get this too. My 4790k is showing its age and it does really hamper the performance of the card. I was concerned about my 2070 super being faulty and when testing in friends machine it was hitting much better and tremendously more stable framerates in games than it was in my machine.

Similar. I wasnt expecting it to make that much if a difference

 

[AyeAyeAhoy!]

Its not much of a bullet if you sell your 4790k. Replacing mb, cpu & ram was a lot easier than in the past too and os build was too.
Everything was much harder 10-20 years ago, even 5-10 years ago

Yeah, I think it's definitely on the cards then. I grabbed some cheap DDR4 RAM in the sales the other day, plus an NVME SSD, so it'd be good to use those.

Plus, managed to grab one of the 3060ti cards from OCUK yesterday! Surely that deserves to be seated in something better

 

[AyeAyeAhoy!]

I wouldn't bother with a 4790k as it will end up costing as much as a new CPU.

Selling the old CPU ram and mb then you would be looking at a net spend of around £150 for this.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Intel Core i5-10400F 2.90GHz (Comet Lake) Socket LGA1200 Processor - Retail= £139.99
• 1 x Gigabyte B460M-D3H (Socket LGA 1200) DDR4 Micro-ATX Motherboard= £79.99
• 1 x Team Group Vulcan Z T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey= £55.99

Total: £286.47 ​

What do you think a similar Intel setup would be? I'd love to go AMD, but unfortunately need Thunderbolt headers for work.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

What do you think a similar Intel setup would be? I'd love to go AMD, but unfortunately need Thunderbolt headers for work.

The Core i5 10600KF is around £220,and similar in price to the Ryzen 5 3600/3600X/3600XT and is faster.

 

[turbot1984]

i am not sure you can sell haswell or early skylake that well anymore. there would have been quite a lot of people doing that lately

I just got £150 for i7 6700k.... but still a decent chip at 4.7 OC.

 

[snips86x]

Wow, I'm still chugging along with the 4790k... Perhaps it's time to bite the bullet

I did the same, 4790k @ 4.7ghz to a 3600 and it was like night and day. Worthwhile in every regard. Should have done it sooner.
My 3600 is interim until the stock levels of zen3 sort themselves out, 5900x is what I'm looking at.

 

[AyeAyeAhoy!]

The Core i5 10600KF is around £220,and similar in price to the Ryzen 5 3600/3600X/3600XT and is faster.

Fab, thanks. That looks about right for me

 

[bobboberts]

I wouldn't bother with a 4790k as it will end up costing as much as a new CPU.

Selling the old CPU ram and mb then you would be looking at a net spend of around £150 for this.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Intel Core i5-10400F 2.90GHz (Comet Lake) Socket LGA1200 Processor - Retail= £139.99
• 1 x Gigabyte B460M-D3H (Socket LGA 1200) DDR4 Micro-ATX Motherboard= £79.99
• 1 x Team Group Vulcan Z T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey= £55.99

Total: £286.47 ​

So I am coming around to the reality that a new build is going to be in order. Is the 10400F a significant step-up in real-world situations? The jump to a 3600 isn't going to be possible so if there are good alternatives around a similar price point to that chip, what are they?

 

[Joxeon]

So I am coming around to the reality that a new build is going to be in order. Is the 10400F a significant step-up in real-world situations? The jump to a 3600 isn't going to be possible so if there are good alternatives around a similar price point to that chip, what are they?

This should give you an idea of the improvement.

 

[rn2]

Can confirm that COD's framerates drop in built up areas with the I74790. G-Sync helps though you still notice 45 fps.

ALso I74790 non K is going for £100 second hand. K is about £30 more but not worth bothering with in your case to be honest.

 

[kidloco]

I’ve just upgraded from a 4790k and 16gb to a 3700x on a X570 mobo with 32gb of 3600 ram. It’s a stop gap until my 5600X arrives. Even so I was expecting some gains in Modern Warfare. I was getting around 115 - 145 FPS before at 1440p and I’m getting exactly the same now. (1080ti by the way).

Very disappointed at the lack of any really gains. It is smoother. Noticeably so as now the CPU is barely ticking along where as 4790k would be sitting at 85-100% utilisation. Any spikes to 100 would cause the spikes.

The 4790k is still a very capable chip. Mines on the bay now if your interested.

 

[SilverCider]

I’ve just upgraded from a 4790k and 16gb to a 3700x on a X570 mobo with 32gb of 3600 ram. It’s a stop gap until my 5600X arrives. Even so I was expecting some gains in Modern Warfare. I was getting around 115 - 145 FPS before at 1440p and I’m getting exactly the same now. (1080ti by the way).

Very disappointed at the lack of any really gains. It is smoother. Noticeably so as now the CPU is barely ticking along where as 4790k would be sitting at 85-100% utilisation. Any spikes to 100 would cause the spikes.

The 4790k is still a very capable chip. Mines on the bay now if your interested.

Isn't that exactly the point of the CPU upgrade though, better 0.1% and 1% lows and therefore a better experience overall? I'd also imagine the times it was running smoothly up around 115 - 145 fps happened to be when you were entirely GPU bottlenecked too, so those peak figures would not increase further with the better CPU.

I've got the double whammy of an old GPU (970) and the i7 4790k to upgrade in one hit. I'm hoping for stock levels to stabilise for when I get around to it next year!

 

[Miganto]

I’ve just upgraded from a 4790k and 16gb to a 3700x on a X570 mobo with 32gb of 3600 ram. It’s a stop gap until my 5600X arrives. Even so I was expecting some gains in Modern Warfare. I was getting around 115 - 145 FPS before at 1440p and I’m getting exactly the same now. (1080ti by the way).

Very disappointed at the lack of any really gains. It is smoother. Noticeably so as now the CPU is barely ticking along where as 4790k would be sitting at 85-100% utilisation. Any spikes to 100 would cause the spikes.

The 4790k is still a very capable chip. Mines on the bay now if your interested.

That's great news, huge room to grow on that cpu when you upgrade other areas - it just means you're limited elsewhere (fps cap, gpu or other hardware bottleneck now) and the cpu is sitting there completing all the tasks it's after using just a few % of what it's capable of by the sounds of what you're saying. It's waiting to truly flex itself

 

[kidloco]

Isn't that exactly the point of the CPU upgrade though, better 0.1% and 1% lows and therefore a better experience overall? I'd also imagine the times it was running smoothly up around 115 - 145 fps happened to be when you were entirely GPU bottlenecked too, so those peak figures would not increase further with the better CPU.

I've got the double whammy of an old GPU (970) and the i7 4790k to upgrade in one hit. I'm hoping for stock levels to stabilise for when I get around to it next year!

That's great news, huge room to grow on that cpu when you upgrade other areas - it just means you're limited elsewhere (fps cap, gpu or other hardware bottleneck now) and the cpu is sitting there completing all the tasks it's after using just a few % of what it's capable of by the sounds of what you're saying. It's waiting to truly flex itself

Yes, it is smoother, so therefore better. I just remember watching loads of YouTube vids showing great framerate jumps by going from 4790k to 3700X. Was just a tad disappointed I didn't see that. I was hoping it would sit with the min always above the 144 refresh rate of my monitor.

My 5600X ships tomorrow as well. Only just got this rig setup.