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Cheap way to record someone doing something wrong.

RedMogg said:
If they're really anti-tech, but want to "record someone doing something wrong" then I'd suggest something like this:
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Off to find one now. This would be best.

Doesn't want a phone doesn't want a video camera unless you can hook it up to a anolog tv, yes that is a question I was asked.
 
wigster said:
Off to find one now. This would be best.

Doesn't want a phone doesn't want a video camera unless you can hook it up to a anolog tv, yes that is a question I was asked.
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I'm guessing from the tone of the thread so far this person doesn't have a modern 'smart' TV, but if they do, some TVs have apps that allow certain wireless cameras to be viewed on them.
 
tangey said:
I'm guessing from the tone of the thread so far this person doesn't have a modern 'smart' TV, but if they do, some TVs have apps that allow certain wireless cameras to be viewed on them.
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O please don't get me going on that subject, Yes but No the person has one but it's not working now because the firmware is messed up from putting new firmware from a usb stick.
 
Don't forget that if you are putting CCTV up that you must block off anything that isn't your property and you can't record sound.
I had a couple of people having a go at me on OCUK because of it.
This is what mine looks like now.

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RetiredGreyFox said:
Don't forget that if you are putting CCTV up that you must block off anything that isn't your property and you can't record sound.
I had a couple of people having a go at me on OCUK because of it.
This is what mine looks like now.

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I didn't know you can't record sound :)

I will let the person know thanks.
 
wigster said:
I didn't know you can't record sound :)
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You are not legally “allowed” or automatically entitled to record sound on your CCTV in the UK. In fact, audio recording is far more restricted than video, and in most situations you cannot legally enable audio unless you meet strict conditions.

You may only record sound on CCTV in the UK if you have a clear, lawful justification, it is necessary and proportionate, and you inform people clearly that audio is being recorded. Otherwise, it is likely unlawful.

Audio captures private conversations, which UK law considers highly intrusive. Voices count as personal data, so audio recording triggers strict obligations under the UK GDPR and Data Protection Act 2018.
 
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The point missed is that the ICO guidance says audio recording is not prohibited, but it requires a much greater justification than video recording:

"Its use will therefore require a much greater justification and you should switch off by default any capability to record audio."
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The thing is when the Police come knocking on your door because they see you have a camera they also want the audio.
In the past three years they have come to me around 15 times and taken away evidence.
It sounds like I'm in a rough area but I'm not.
We had a second hand car salesman who lived next door but one and he upset a lot of people, one early morning his transit van was set on fire so that's when I put the cameras up.
He had another 3 targeted attacks (car theft) and I provided evidence.
I had two neighbours who had cycles nicked, two bouts of two old neighbours arguing with each other and the rest were to see if potential scum had used our street to come through on the way to somewhere else.
If you watch any crime series you will see the Cops send a team out to peoples houses and harvest 1000s hours of CCTV evidence they trawl through and I've never seen them once say to a homeowner "Thanks for this but do you know your camera shouldn't point at the street" :)
 
RetiredGreyFox said:
If you watch any crime series you will see the Cops send a team out to peoples houses and harvest 1000s hours of CCTV evidence they trawl through and I've never seen them once say to a homeowner "Thanks for this but do you know your camera shouldn't point at the street" :)
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This.

Had the police request our cam footage precisely BECAUSE it was partially recording the street. Also, doesn't just about every single retailer have cctv on the outside of their property recording public places such as footpaths etc.
 
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RetiredGreyFox said:
The thing is when the Police come knocking on your door because they see you have a camera they also want the audio.
In the past three years they have come to me around 15 times and taken away evidence.
It sounds like I'm in a rough area but I'm not.
We had a second hand car salesman who lived next door but one and he upset a lot of people, one early morning his transit van was set on fire so that's when I put the cameras up.
He had another 3 targeted attacks (car theft) and I provided evidence.
I had two neighbours who had cycles nicked, two bouts of two old neighbours arguing with each other and the rest were to see if potential scum had used our street to come through on the way to somewhere else.
If you watch any crime series you will see the Cops send a team out to peoples houses and harvest 1000s hours of CCTV evidence they trawl through and I've never seen them once say to a homeowner "Thanks for this but do you know your camera shouldn't point at the street" :)
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Went to the police station yesterday to review the footage about to be shown in my sister-in-law's murder trial starting next week.

There were 95 clips (we were there for over 3 hours), showing the ****'s movement from the time she was murdered, taken from many different CCTV cameras of different homes, businesses and the council/police, plus Ring doorbells along his route.
The most important clips (to secure a conviction) are the ones that include sound.
 
spile said:
The point missed is that the ICO guidance says audio recording is not prohibited, but it requires a much greater justification than video recording:
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Indeed but the intent is essentially that you shouldn't be recording any audio from people on public land. Private land & signage is enough.

Also the ICO is a joke on this matter (and most others) anyway. Walk down any road and have a look how many doorcams are recording everyone on video (and audio by default on a lot of stuff).

Laws only work if they get enforced and its been a long time since the ICO got the money for that.
 
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