Check my build please? :)

Drewsan

Drewsan

Drewsan

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Hey guys, so I've been away putting together a build and I was just wondering if you could check it for me please?

Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix B650E-F
CPU: Ryzen 7800X3D
CPU Cooler: Corsair A115
GPU: Asus TUF RTX 4070 Super OC Edition
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 2x16GB CMK32GC5M2B6000Z30
PSU: Corsair RM750x OR RM850x - whichever is cheapest at the time of purchase
NVME: Samsung 980 Pro M.2 2TB MZ-V8P2T0BW
SSD: Samsung 870 EVO1TB (Already own)
GPU Support bracket: upHere GS05BK
Case: Corsair 7000D
Extra case fans: 3x Corsair AF120 Elite, 1x Corsair AF140 Elite

That's it so far.

Thanks in advance!
 
CPU, mobo, cooler and ram are basically what I'm going to be going for once I've moved house. PSU I already bought a Corsair 1000 as wanted the side cables as my case supported it. And also bought a 4080.
 
Hey, I cant offer any technical advice as Im not that read up on the parts etc.

BUT

Im going along a very similar line, the 7800X3D, same Ram. Im thinking of the ROG Strix B650E-E, and going for the Phanteks Glacier One 420D30 Black RGB and 2 sets of the Phanteks D30 120mm DRGB PWM Triple Fan Pack.
Ive got NVME's already, using a 1080TI until i can go for a4070 Super, and they are all going into a Lian Li O11D Lambo Case that I won :)

What made you go with the cooler and fans you picked?
 
Asus and Corsair, you've pick the brands known for their crap after sales services :D

Looks fine, I don't particularly care for that case, something like the Factual Design North XL I think looks way better and gives excellent cooling. I would also swap out that PSU for a Seasonic focus 850
 
Drewsan said:
Case: Corsair 7000D
Extra case fans: 3x Corsair AF120 Elite, 1x Corsair AF140 Elite
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Your cooling is quite expensive, especially since you could buy something like Phanteks XT Ultra or Lian Li 216 and have enough stock fans.

Drewsan said:
PSU: Corsair RM750x OR RM850x - whichever is cheapest at the time of purchase
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Is this the original version, or the SHIFT? The original version doesn't have a native 16 pin for the 4070 Super.

Drewsan said:
CPU Cooler: Corsair A115
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Freezer 36, peerless assassin or phantom spirit are cheaper alternatives.

If you give us a budget, we might be able to give you an overall better spec.
 
Tetras said:
Your cooling is quite expensive, especially since you could buy something like Phanteks XT Ultra or Lian Li 216 and have enough stock fans.


Is this the original version, or the SHIFT? The original version doesn't have a native 16 pin for the 4070 Super.


Freezer 36, peerless assassin or phantom spirit are cheaper alternatives.

If you give us a budget, we might be able to give you an overall better spec.
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Oh dear, good catch, thank you. It was the original version.

My budget is around the £2000 mark with some wriggle room. I wanted a tower case as my hands are big and I find my current mid-tower a little frustrating. I chose the 7800x3D and the 4070 super due to the performance and price points.

Overall I'd like the option to upgrade in the future, which is why I picked the mobo - with pci-e 5.0 at £188.

I know ASUS have had some backlash due to their support of their handheld recently. Are they and Corsair really that bad? I've never had an issue with their products.

Also, a larger Wattage PSU will draw that power constantly, meaning that it will ALWAYS cost more money to run? I ask as I've seen people using like 1200W's for the same system.

Thank you :)
 
7000 a monster of a case...sure you want something that large? I've got a 5000x which is big enough..they've really jacked up price since I bought mine though
Corsair psu are top tier, especially the rmx versions, bit you'll want the shift as @Tetras says for the native 16pin connector
no idea on asus customer service...hopefully never find out as have the b650e-e board myself...had to go through corsair customer service for some faiked qk120 fans thiugh, where led failed on white and produced a pink...sent them receipt of purchase and photo, they sent new fans immediately, no question asked..didnt require old fans either...excellent service in my book
I'm using a rm1000x shift in a 011d also...with 7800x3d and b650e-e...they are efficient..wouldn't worry
 
I'd just get a arctic a36 freezer air cooler £23(that's the dual fan rgb version) from same place you can get the b650e-e for £249...do jot pay £288 for that board....I paid less than that a couple months after it got released...it was £235 a couple of weeks ago...or go for the b650e-f for £187 if you look
 
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Drewsan said:
My budget is around the £2000 mark with some wriggle room.
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Here is some readjustment on the cooling, with the graphics upgraded to a 4080 Super.

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £1,854.84 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

Drewsan said:
Also, a larger Wattage PSU will draw that power constantly, meaning that it will ALWAYS cost more money to run? I ask as I've seen people using like 1200W's for the same system.
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They only draw what they need, there is some benefit from hitting the optimal efficiency curve, but I wouldn't worry about it.

At idle there can be a small increase with very large PSUs, but this is not meaningful for a high-end PC.

Drewsan said:
I wanted a tower case as my hands are big and I find my current mid-tower a little frustrating.
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I don't think you'll find the 216 hard to build in, maybe watch a few videos on YouTube to judge the size.

Drewsan said:
Overall I'd like the option to upgrade in the future, which is why I picked the mobo - with pci-e 5.0 at £188.
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I doubt PCI-E 5.0 graphics is going to be important before this PC is junked, but your call :)

The board in my spec does have a PCI-E 5.0 SSD slot (1x of them, the other 2x are 4.0).

Drewsan said:
I know ASUS have had some backlash due to their support of their handheld recently. Are they and Corsair really that bad? I've never had an issue with their products.
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Tetras said:
Here is some readjustment on the cooling, with the graphics upgraded to a 4080 Super.

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £1,854.84 (includes delivery: £0.00)​


They only draw what they need, there is some benefit from hitting the optimal efficiency curve, but I wouldn't worry about it.

At idle there can be a small increase with very large PSUs, but this is not meaningful for a high-end PC.


I don't think you'll find the 216 hard to build in, maybe watch a few videos on YouTube to judge the size.


I doubt PCI-E 5.0 graphics is going to be important before this PC is junked, but your call :)

The board in my spec does have a PCI-E 5.0 SSD slot (1x of them, the other 2x are 4.0).


Pass.
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Wow, that's great, thank you... Does CL36 RAM perform relatively the same as CL30 RAM?

I ask as it's the reason I picked the RAM that I did over the rest.
 
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core 5.00GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail
CP-3DT-AM
£500 (incl. VAT)
£350 (incl. VAT)
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Asus TUF Gaming B650-E WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard
MOT-ASU-02136
£150 (incl. VAT)
£140 (incl. VAT)
FREE DELIVERY
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Corsair Vengeance EXPO/XMP 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C36 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit
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£86 (incl. VAT)
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Asus TUF Gaming 850W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply
CA-060-AS
£130 (incl. VAT)
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Arctic Freezer 36 120m Black CPU Cooler - 2x 120mm
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Drewsan said:
Wow, that's great, thank you... Does CL36 RAM perform relatively the same as CL30 RAM?

I ask as it's the reason I picked the RAM that I did over the rest.
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The difference in performance between the 7800X3D at 1080p with a 4090 (not a realistic scenario really, since you'd play at 4K with this card), was just 4% in HUB's results between 6000 CL30 and 5200 CL40, so the difference between 6000 C36 and 6000 C30 would be very small, just a few percent.

In other words: you're not going to notice, but the cost saving is very small on a £2K build, so it's really not worth thinking too deeply about either way.

Do keep in mind though that if you're air cooling, then there can be an issue with ram height. The Freezer 36 is supposed to be pretty good in this respect.

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Interesting stuff, thanks guys.

Obviously the parts Tetras swapped out are cheaper brands. Is it worth buying the more expensive brands over the cheaper ones? I know performance wise the gains are smaller or unnecessary but in terms of longevity?

Also I was wondering what I should do with my current PC? I could break the parts down and sell them but I'd be left with the case. Can I recycle it?

Thanks again.
 
Drewsan said:
Oh dear, good catch, thank you. It was the original version.

My budget is around the £2000 mark with some wriggle room. I wanted a tower case as my hands are big and I find my current mid-tower a little frustrating. I chose the 7800x3D and the 4070 super due to the performance and price points.

Overall I'd like the option to upgrade in the future, which is why I picked the mobo - with pci-e 5.0 at £188.

I know ASUS have had some backlash due to their support of their handheld recently. Are they and Corsair really that bad? I've never had an issue with their products.

Also, a larger Wattage PSU will draw that power constantly, meaning that it will ALWAYS cost more money to run? I ask as I've seen people using like 1200W's for the same system.

Thank you :)
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If you haven't bought a product from them recently you may not have realised just how quickly they have declined, on Trustpilot they sit at 2 out of 5 and 60% of the reviews are 1 star. Problems that are frequently cited are warranties that are not honoured, poor product documentation, the staff don't care and don't help, their products just aren't as good as they were, they've clearly cut corners to save money, build quality is worse on most of their line-up and their software doesn't work and is buggy (mostly relates to ique or whatever it's called). It's all as result of them listing their company of the stock exchange in 2020 and the company now being under pressure to deliver growth for investors which has resulted in a decline in their standards. You can watch gamers nexus video reviewing the 6000D and 6000X case as one example.

There's plenty of other decent brands out their that makes quality products, loyalty doesn't get you anything other then disappointment.
 
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Drewsan said:
Obviously the parts Tetras swapped out are cheaper brands. Is it worth buying the more expensive brands over the cheaper ones? I know performance wise the gains are smaller or unnecessary but in terms of longevity?
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The Tuf Gold PSU has a 10 year warranty like the RMx series and reviewed fine @ Anandtech, so theoretically I'd expect it to be alright.

The original RMx doesn't come with a native 16 pin connector for the newer nvidia cards, you'd need a RMx SHIFT for that. In terms of: can you expect the Tuf to last as long, I don't know, Asus don't have much PSU history, but they previously used Seasonic for their Strix line and the TUF models are from Great Wall, so they're not built by novices.

The WD SN770 has been around for awhile and I haven't heard any complaints. It is a lower-tier drive than the 980 Pro (lacks DRAM, for example), but there have been known issues with Samsung drives including this model, so it's not like we're comparing impeccable drives here. The WN850X mentioned above is a comparable drive to the 980 Pro (in terms of spec), so I'd expect it to perform and last just as long. All the drives have the same warranty length and similar endurance ratings from the manufacturer.

The cooler is cheaper, but Arctic have a very long history of making air coolers, so I have zero concerns about that and the cooler is so cheap it's not a big deal.

The case: there's not much to go wrong with cases, but just like Arctic, Lian Li have a long history so I have no concerns.

Zotac: they have the longest warranty, so you could say that they stand by their products, but I have no numbers on failure rates so I can't say.

Asus isn't exactly known for great support (rather the opposite), so I don't think rate them as a preferred brand. Similarly, Corsair used to have great support, but since the buyout a lot of their reps have disappeared and I don't think they're as helpful.
 
Drewsan said:
I wanted a tower case as my hands are big and I find my current mid-tower a little frustrating.
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I have the Lian li 216 and even though it is a mid tower case i found it very easy to work with. The only cramped space is the PSU bay, but that is going to be the same with any case with a PSU shroud.

What case have you got now? (if you can't sell the case you should be able to recycle all the metal parts, not sure if the plastic can be)
 
freddie64 said:
I have the Lian li 216 and even though it is a mid tower case i found it very easy to work with. The only cramped space is the PSU bay, but that is going to be the same with any case with a PSU shroud.

What case have you got now? (if you can't sell the case you should be able to recycle all the metal parts, not sure if the plastic can be)
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At present I have a Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus. I'd keep it but the front panel is busted and I can't get replacement parts. It's mostly metal - heavy case! Also as I said, big hands make it hard to do anything in the case. My hands genuinely make it quite difficult for me to do fiddly things. I had to ask someone to replace a bulb for my car headlights a few years back! :D
Freddie1980 said:
If you haven't bought a product from them recently you may not have realised just how quickly they have declined, on Trustpilot they sit at 2 out of 5 and 60% of the reviews are 1 star. Problems that are frequently cited are warranties that are not honoured, poor product documentation, the staff don't care and don't help, their products just aren't as good as they were, they've clearly cut corners to save money, build quality is worse on most of their line-up and their software doesn't work and is buggy (mostly relates to ique or whatever it's called). It's all as result of them listing their company of the stock exchange in 2020 and the company now being under pressure to deliver growth for investors which has resulted in a decline in their standards. You can watch gamers nexus video reviewing the 6000D and 6000X case as one example.

There's plenty of other decent brands out their that makes quality products, loyalty doesn't get you anything other then disappointment.
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You actually linked an airline, which also has horrible reviews, but oh yeah I had no idea how bad it was! Maybe time to rethink using them!

Tetras said:
The Tuf Gold PSU has a 10 year warranty like the RMx series and reviewed fine @ Anandtech, so theoretically I'd expect it to be alright.

The original RMx doesn't come with a native 16 pin connector for the newer nvidia cards, you'd need a RMx SHIFT for that. In terms of: can you expect the Tuf to last as long, I don't know, Asus don't have much PSU history, but they previously used Seasonic for their Strix line and the TUF models are from Great Wall, so they're not built by novices.

The WD SN770 has been around for awhile and I haven't heard any complaints. It is a lower-tier drive than the 980 Pro (lacks DRAM, for example), but there have been known issues with Samsung drives including this model, so it's not like we're comparing impeccable drives here. The WN850X mentioned above is a comparable drive to the 980 Pro (in terms of spec), so I'd expect it to perform and last just as long. All the drives have the same warranty length and similar endurance ratings from the manufacturer.

The cooler is cheaper, but Arctic have a very long history of making air coolers, so I have zero concerns about that and the cooler is so cheap it's not a big deal.

The case: there's not much to go wrong with cases, but just like Arctic, Lian Li have a long history so I have no concerns.

Zotac: they have the longest warranty, so you could say that they stand by their products, but I have no numbers on failure rates so I can't say.

Asus isn't exactly known for great support (rather the opposite), so I don't think rate them as a preferred brand. Similarly, Corsair used to have great support, but since the buyout a lot of their reps have disappeared and I don't think they're as helpful.
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I see, thank you again for your input!
 
Drewsan said:
At present I have a Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus. I'd keep it but the front panel is busted and I can't get replacement parts. It's mostly metal - heavy case! Also as I said, big hands make it hard to do anything in the case. My hands genuinely make it quite difficult for me to do fiddly things. I had to ask someone to replace a bulb for my car headlights a few years back! :D

You actually linked an airline, which also has horrible reviews, but oh yeah I had no idea how bad it was! Maybe time to rethink using them!
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Sorry, after I posted I realised I'd linked the wrong company and I thought I had edited it but the link is still the same for some reason. My bad. This is the correct link LINK
 
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