Chimney back gutter repair

Siliconslave

Siliconslave

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So as its the middle of the apocalypse here in the south our roof has decided to spring a leak.

The emergency home assistance thing we have seems to be totally worthless, and every roofer in the area is booked out for the next two weeks so i'm left trying to work out how to stop more of our bedroom (which sits under said leak) getting wetter. I have a temporary system of buckets, cling film etc setup to harvest the rainwater (collected about 5pints so far) but its not stopping everything :(

I think the biggest problem to DIYing this will be access:

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The area of the leak is the highest point, ie the back of the front chimney, so using a roof latter hooked over the ridge is a no-go due to the chimney being on the hipped end...

Anyone got any bright ideas?
 
Leave it.

We are experiencing exceptionally adverse weather with the combination of southerly wind driving the rain so lots of water is getting in where it wasn't designed to be protected.

One elevation of my house is soaked because the rain is being driven up under the cill which hasn't been sealed.

You might be protecting something that's one in a hundred.
 
You could just flashband as a bodge around the flashing but it'll only be a bodge, I'd wait till roofers come free then get a proper job done on it and rip out all the plaster and make good.
 
When you come to have the work done, make sure the pointing on the chimneys is ok, & replace where necessary, also the caps & pots, as they can work loose over time from the effects of the weather.
 
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You'll be lucky to get anyone to go up without scaffold on the front. I know I wouldnt go up without. Just ring and ask them to come as soon as they can, explain the situation. Your flashings/soakers will be shot, so no doubt will need replacing, or at a temp bodge, cracks sealing. As Nightglow said, check your chimney and pointing/haunching over too whilst up there. Could even give it a coat of Thompsons waterproofer.
 
ANDARIAL said:
Man up
ladder to hipped ridge
mastic gun and rag tied to your back
Run up the hip like a monkey :D
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To do that job, it's scaffolding, couldn't do that job safely from a roof ladder, & I certainly wouldn't.

I would do both chimneys while your at it, plus it's a opportunity to clean your gutters.
 
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ANDARIAL said:
Man up
ladder to hipped ridge
mastic gun and rag tied to your back
Run up the hip like a monkey :D
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We've had a roofing guy out in the past who just took a ladder up to the fascia then went for a wander around the roof, he was tiny so guess it wasn't a worry about going through, and apparently he'd fallen off a few times in the past :eek:

Finally the home cover people came back to us yesterday evening (about 8pm!) - based on a guy looking at the inside of the chimney they've decided it'll be a full replacement of the leading on both chimneys and quoted the following:

Perm Scaffold £1188+VAT
2 hours labour £120+VAT
Total including VAT and call out fee = £1732.80

wtf!?! - thankfully they'll cover the first 1k, and we can get an indy to do it for us if we like so trying again to get some local roofers to quote...
 
ANDARIAL said:
For replacement lead to 2 chimneys?
Don`t think you would get all the lead for that(back gutter and soakers plus any timber repairs) let alone paying for time to do the job
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agreed, it doesn't add up really, the scaffold seems far too expensive, and the labor too little, parts etc must be more so maybe they are just planning on painting some sealant stuff onto it!
As i say we've used decent roofers in the past, and their lead times are about the same as this quote (2 weeks before they can do anything) so if possible we'll use them.
 
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Perm Scaffold £1188+VAT,you must be joking, you scaffold the whole house for that price.

Scaffold front of house here, cost around £200- £250, but expect prices to be higher, maybe £400 depending on area, plus you need staging to chimney.
 
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That scaffold price is ridiculous!!! Before Christmas I did a re roof on a house 3 times the size of that and scaffold all the way around was £2300 inc vat for the whole month! So £1188+vat just for the front, they saw you coming! If you were replacing the flashing at the back of the stack you'd be looking at around a days labour so £120ish + roll of lead you could say £60-80 inc vat, and any other materials, sealants, waterproofer etc you could maybe say £250 labour & materials. Scaffold for the front youd only need up for a few days. So you could say anywhere around £300-£500 there depending on who you go with and your area. (you could even manage without staging to the chimney, if theyre experienced roofers you could just lay a ladder up the roof and get to it from that) All in all you should be looking at around £500-700 at the most really.
 
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Cosmic182 said:
You could even manage without staging to the chimney, if they're experienced roofers you could just lay a ladder up the roof and get to it from that) All in all you should be looking at around £500-700 at the most really.
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Agree 100%, but it all depends on overall condition of the chimney, & from the photo it's a job to tell.

I have done jobs where I have had scaffolding & then laid a ladder up the roof, only to find I needed a further stage around the chimney to enable me to replace the capping & a split pot, something that couldn't be done from a ladder, or spotted from a ground examination using binoculars.
 
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Apparently the insurance won't pay out for anyone but their contractor to do it, so our current thinking is:
Wait a week to get a quote from our trusted local roofer and if that comes anywhere near the £700 we'd have to pay, if so we'll get them to do it - don't trust the insurance monkeys in the slightest!
 
Siliconslave said:
Apparently the insurance won't pay out for anyone but their contractor to do it, so our current thinking is:
Wait a week to get a quote from our trusted local roofer and if that comes anywhere near the £700 we'd have to pay, if so we'll get them to do it - don't trust the insurance monkeys in the slightest!
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Always better to used a well respected & trusted local roofer, than a unknown contractor referred by a insurance company.
 
jas72 said:
your insurance will probably pay for that?

We got a quote for debricking rebricking and pointing with cap for 1150€ thought that was a great price.
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Our chimney is leaking and our insurance said it wasn't covered, but any water damage to the decorating would be covered.
 
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