Chinese Grand Prix 2016, Shanghai - Race 3/21

Vettel really needs to watch a replay because it was Kimi who squeezed vettel, and Kvyat did exactly nothing wrong at all. He made the corner, he had no problem he didn't suddenly swing out to the outside line because he was too fast for that line. That he made the corner perfectly proves he wasn't going too fast or too crazy, the line was clear so he put his car in it.
 
el_dazza said:
Christ Hamilton fans are all or nothing aren't they. It'll even itself out eventually, same thing's happened before and he made up the difference comfortably.
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Oh yeah, 2014 was far worse in the grand scheme of things. But there's no doubting Nico has been on top form since end of last season.
 
JunglistE said:
Oh yeah, 2014 was far worse in the grand scheme of things. But there's no doubting Nico has been on top form since end of last season.
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AFAIK the biggest gap in 2014 was 29 points having a quick look at it. The gap is 36 points currently.

Likewise Hamilton is either going to be way down on engine power for multiple races or require an extra engine and a penalty to go along with it compared to Rosberg. The engines should do 4+ races a piece and Hamilton has had to take another one already. So as it stands Rosberg will probably have a new engine for Canada where Hamilton will likely have a old engine. It all adds up.
 
Skeeter said:
Nico's results over the end of last year and the start of this year have nothing to do with him being "on form".
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Well, It kind of does. He has carried his strong finishing form from last season to this season - granted he has had lady luck on him a bit. I'm not saying it counts for anything but he has done well. (I'm certainly not the type who counts points over 3 seasons to say Button beat him)

drunkenmaster said:
AFAIK the biggest gap in 2014 was 29 points having a quick look at it. The gap is 36 points currently.

Likewise Hamilton is either going to be way down on engine power for multiple races or require an extra engine and a penalty to go along with it compared to Rosberg. The engines should do 4+ races a piece and Hamilton has had to take another one already. So as it stands Rosberg will probably have a new engine for Canada where Hamilton will likely have a old engine. It all adds up.
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Yeah it was 29 but he had to claw big gaps back twice in once season which was shorter than this one.

Makes it more exciting from a viewer perspective but it's probably quite far from the way Hamilton expected to start this season
 
JunglistE said:
Well, It kind of does. He has carried his strong finishing form from last season to this season - granted he has had lady luck on him a bit. I'm not saying it counts for anything but he has done well. (I'm certainly not the type who counts points over 3 seasons to say Button beat him)



Yeah it was 29 but he had to claw big gaps back twice in once season which was shorter than this one.

Makes it more exciting from a viewer perspective but it's probably quite far from the way Hamilton expected to start this season
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That season Merc had exactly no competitors though. Okay RBR had a couple freak races but there were races Hamilton started near the back and ended up on the podium, that is significantly less likely to happen this year. It's not so much the Merc pace advantage, it's that the other cars while slower over a lap have made up a lot of ground in straight line speed so it's significantly harder to carve your way up through the field compared to 2014.

I'm in no way saying it's over at all, but the circumstances are far less favourable for a big come back, it's also likely that Rosberg would probably have some trouble but also likely Hamilton will have further problems
 
Hamilton fans, very much like the dejected Hamilton we used to see.
Basically writing the season off... Come on now. All it needs is a Rosberg failure, or crash and he'll be laughing.
I'm not the biggest fan of Hamilton, but at least he's not as negative as his fans!

Edit: At the same time, I've no clue what Rosberg has to do, to satisfy people here. There isn't a place above first... He can't do more.
 
Emlyn_Dewar said:
Hamilton fans, very much like the dejected Hamilton we used to see.
Basically writing the season off... Come on now. All it needs is a Rosberg failure, or crash and he'll be laughing.
I'm not the biggest fan of Hamilton, but at least he's not as negative as his fans!

Edit: At the same time, I've no clue what Rosberg has to do, to satisfy people here. There isn't a place above first... He can't do more.
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They've got Vettel syndrome. Someone else is winning and no matter what the circumstances, they don't like it.

I couldn't honestly care who wins as long as it's competitive and interesting. What I don't like is all the whining when someone has an unfortunate event that hinders one race and apparently that's ruined their season. The same could happen to anyone at any given race.

If anyone's got a right to moan, it's poor Raikkonen as it seems to happen to him every race :p
 
Really good race - very much enjoyed it. I think we saw the perfect illustration of why Mercedes didn't want to supply engines to Red Bull.

Williams continue to disappoint - they clearly haven't developed as much as the likes of Red Bull and Force India, and are sliding backwards at the moment.

Skeeter said:
Nico's results over the end of last year and the start of this year have nothing to do with him being "on form".
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They have absolutely everything to do with him being "on form". He's shown good pace and raced well. It is also a healthy dose of good fortune for reliability plus last year Hamilton has now admitted that he took his eye off the ball once the championship was won.

He's on form and everything has also gone his way. It is a great start to the season for him.
 
drunkenmaster said:
AFAIK the biggest gap in 2014 was 29 points having a quick look at it. The gap is 36 points currently.

Likewise Hamilton is either going to be way down on engine power for multiple races or require an extra engine and a penalty to go along with it compared to Rosberg. The engines should do 4+ races a piece and Hamilton has had to take another one already. So as it stands Rosberg will probably have a new engine for Canada where Hamilton will likely have a old engine. It all adds up.
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Engines aren't so bad. They have an extra engine for the season but only one extra race so the engines aren't as heavily stressed. Plus, it was removed from the car for analysis and they don't know which bits from the PU can be reused yet.

What exactly happened with Lewis. I was having to listen on iPlayer (hotel wifi doesn't appear sufficient for Sky Sports) and no real mention was made of his accident.
 
Alibaba99 said:
What exactly happened with Lewis. I was having to listen on iPlayer (hotel wifi doesn't appear sufficient for Sky Sports) and no real mention was made of his accident.
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A Sauber smacked into him trying to evade the Ferrari, taking his front wing off.

3 races in and Rosberg has had a 100% start. Not sure what else being "on form" constitutes, it's not his fault others keep getting into difficulty, whatever the reason.
 
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JunglistE said:
Oh yeah, 2014 was far worse in the grand scheme of things. But there's no doubting Nico has been on top form since end of last season.
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I think in the end there was only 1 reliability difference between Rosberg and Hamilton in 2014, and Rosberg had one of his in the final double-points race. It'll come around. Lots and lots of races left to overcome the points difference. Rosberg isn't going to have a clear run to the title.
 
Sounds like there are actually highlights to watch today! Hamilton is quite behind now. Probably looks worse than it is at the moment since Hamilton gave up at the end of last season and has had a fair bit of bad luck this season. I still think this is rosbergs year.
 
Despite the great start by Rosberg, and the historic fact that no driver has failed to win the WDC after winning the first three races, this season is far from a done deal. Any suggestion is simply nonsense. The season's rarely been longer than it is now, there's a bit more competition at the front and reliability looks to be more of an issue for Mercedes this year. In two races Hamilton could be ahead of Rosberg in the WDC, and there'd still be 16 races remaining.

What's more of interest are the good racing this year. Some groups of cars are closer than before, and the additional tyre choice is making racing better and giving more flexibility to adapt to different situations. Let's hope it continues all season.
 
No competition at the front and a few interesting recovery drives

Otherwise it was boring after first couple of laps, glad I didn't get up early for this one.

Locky said:
Easily Rosberg's year. I predict he will win it with quite a few races to spare.
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Luck might change at some point but if it stays like this it's only going to go one way.
 
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