Caporegime
70 years ago is a fair bit of time...
Chinese officials suspended for casting spells.
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70 years ago is a fair bit of time...
He's not wrong though is he. Hence why we are losing so many animals to extinction from their backwards views on Rhino and Elephant horn etc. They are very backward.
It's absolutely not. There isn't an ounce of evidence except for the supposed evidence the Vatican has that they won't let anyone see.
I bet you, you cannot find a single picture or scan of any parchment or book from the era that mentions any such person.
All fabricated by the church.
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Caporegime
Even the Guardian disagrees with you...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...cal-evidence-that-jesus-christ-lived-and-died
"Within a few decades of his supposed lifetime, he is mentioned by Jewish and Roman historians"
So even the people that despised him from a religious point of view write about the dude existing!
From the wikipedia entry for Tacitus.
"The Roman historian and senator Tacitus referred to Christ, his execution by Pontius Pilate, and the existence of early Christians in Rome in one page of his final work, Annals (written ca. AD 116)"
Now - I'm not a mathematician but AD 116 isn't 500 years after he died, is it?
Of course they have intelligent people, but the bottom half leaves a lot to be desired.
Yep, let's just gloss over the fact that animals such as Rhinos are on the brink of extinction because they truly think their horns help with various illnesses, or that people still believe in utterly ridiculous things such as witchcraft. The thread is about the latter. Should I congratulate them instead? It was only last year that a man in China let "witch doctors" steam his wife alive to dispel ghosts. Absolutely nuts.
I have nothing against the Chinese - just their dubious beliefs. And for a country that is number two in the world, this sort of crap still being common really surprises me.
Quoting a quote is not evidence. It's a poor source of information to use Tacitus because it never refers to Jesus! It refers to a populace of Christus who derive their name from their leader Christ, aka Christians.
It never refers to a particular man called Jesus, just that Christians god, is Christ and that they are not a well liked people and suffer via Pontius Pilatus.
Almost all historical evidence for him, is very circumstantial and vague at best. No one refers to Jesus as they do in the bible, outside of the bible.
Soldato
Is your mind blown that Jesus is real?
No. My mind is blown by people who have no evidence for their claims who think he is real.
Everybody knows Tacitus was just an ancient Roman troll. He made it all up on the spot!
It's not exactly farfetched to think he existed. No one here is suggested that all the mythology around him is true but that doesn't mean the person around which Christianity grew is a myth too.
As for the magic incident, people from all over believe in magic and it's a part of many cultures and traditions.
Get with it man, I posted that earlier!
If only they'd arrest/punish officials for any of the multitude of genuinely corrupt, evil and damaging things they do, instead of once again making examples of easy targets.
Edit to clarify that's about officials, I have nothing against (most of) the general population.
Edit to clarify that's about officials, I have nothing against (most of) the general population.
Yes exactly, I don't imagine they knew the severity of their actions and while ignorance of the law isn't an excuse a warning should be enough for them...
Man of Honour
Not really. She was arrested (and tried and convicted) on a charge of fraudulent "witchcraft", specifically falsely claiming to raise spirits of the dead. The Witchcraft Act 1735 wasn't about people being witches. It was about people falsely claiming to be witches or falsely claiming that someone else was a witch.
The authorities thought she was leaking classified information during WW2 and that she was commiting fraud by pretending to have supernatural powers in order to obtain money by deception. Both of which were true.
Man of Honour
While that's true, Tacitus was referring to what Christians believed. There's plenty of evidence that Christians existed in the late 1st century AD, but that's not evidence that Jesus existed. There isn't any direct evidence of that. The best evidence is that something must have started Christianity and a person is the most likely cause.
Caporegime
"As far as we know, the first author outside the church to mention Jesus is the Jewish historian Flavius Josephus, who wrote a history of Judaism around AD93. He has two references to Jesus. One of these is controversial because it is thought to be corrupted by Christian scribes (probably turning Josephus’s negative account into a more positive one), but the other is not suspicious – a reference to James, the brother of “Jesus, the so-called Christ”."
From the first link I posted that was conveniently ignored by chronic. AD93...
The very last paragraph is the only solid part of it.
In other words superstitious activity is banned if you're a communist party member and to boot they were ripping people off using it.
But lets take the lead from RT's clickbait headline, suggestive pictures and 90% of their article.
In other words superstitious activity is banned if you're a communist party member and to boot they were ripping people off using it.
But lets take the lead from RT's clickbait headline, suggestive pictures and 90% of their article.