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Well, answering as a Catholic I am bound by dogma. However this piece here is worth a read and goes into some detail as to why the Church isn't sexist.Why is a woman unable to do this? How does a pair of **** and the lack of a penis stop a woman acting "in the person of Christ"?
The above doesn't even address the point. You feel the Catholic church has very valid reasons for restricting the role due to gender. Many Catholics disagree with you not to mention non Catholics. The Church prevents women from having a full role within the chruch. Therefore the chruch is sexist. Regardless of the existence or not of a legitimate reason for the discrimination.
But really the Church position is clear.
Women are unable to be priests.
It doesn't teach that it doesn't want female priests - it simply teaches that they are not capable of being priests.
As a man I am not capable of bearing children - does that mean I am not equal to a woman?
Doesn't stop most of them in the UK though.But that is neither here nor there, due to the uneven burden of pregnancy on a woman then the control of conception has a much larger impact on a woman than a man. After my wife's pregnancy I am even more pro-choice than I was prior to it having seen first hand some of the health implications.
I am not stopping you from living your life in any way that you so choose. It doesn't mean that contraception has a bearing on sexual equality. Your wife on the other hand as a Catholic should try to adhere to the teaching of the Church.
I believe that, and I believe that people sin. I am not perfect by any stretch. I personally don't have too much of an issue with gay civil partnerships, I have a very strong objection to gay marriage.Do you actually believe that or are you just trotting out the standard lines? How is the right to marry a woman of any use whatsoever to a homosexual man?
I believe that "the lobby" was pretty clear at the time. Certainly the Catholic Church believes that gay partnerships erode the value placed on the family.Why did the lobby against Civil Gay marriages being allowed when it has nothing whatsoever to do with the Church being a completely secular event?
The Catholic Church believes homosexual acts are wrong. Do you really expect them to endorse the adoption of a child by parents who are doing wrong? Really? You might not agree with them but at least understand them. They really can't take any other position.Not much of a problem for us heterosexuals though is it? That is a pretty easy sin for me to avoid. I also find it distasteful that the Catholic Church would prefer children to remain in care rather than go to a loving home due to the sexual orientation of the parents.
I shall let my wife know she is a heretic (and a sinner), seems awfully judgemental of you though....![]()
I am not judging just stating fact. I am sure your wife is lovely and I am most certainly not judging her - that isn't my place.
I am aware that there are members of the Catholic Church who would like to see women ordained. Those people are either (a) ignorant of their own religion or (b) heretics.
The Churches position is that women can not be priests - that is an infallible dogma. It can not be changed. If your wife is aware of this and still rejects it then she is committing the sin of heresy. This is a very grave sin indeed and carries the sanction of excommunication. I don't want to sound too dramatic on this but essentially the Church has rules and if you want to stay in the Church you have to follow the rules. She is not bound to the Church and can follow the path to apostasy if she chooses.