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I don't see what is childish about using an example about someone being selfish in a public area and endangering peoples lives and comparing it to smoking. Clearly you don't consider the effects of your 2nd hand smoking to be serious enough, despite the factual evidence suggesting you ought to be. Maybe you are actually that selfish that you don't care?



I'm sorry, are my motor fumes congesting your lungs? Get off the street and in your pub, you have no right to moan about it. Do you see the issue?

Thats my point, I'm not moaning about it as I respect that people like to drive around.
 
this isnt a personal attack Captain Planet, we get you dont like smoking but we also dont feel like people should complain that we smoke. OK so 2nd hand smoke isnt great but its not like you have to dodge smoke left right and center every time you leave your home.

Also, I, as like many other smokers, also like that there is no smoking in pubs, I miss it from time to time when im feeling to lazy to go outside but then I man up and go outside if I really want a smoke that bad. The plus side to the smoking ban is that beer gardens seem so much nicer these days too.
 
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No big deal, I've had far worse than a small debate with people over a topic of interest on an internet forum :p

I personally have never complained about anyone smoking, (at least I can't think of any time I have). I agree it's your choice, do what you want, it's not my business. My problem comes when I end up smoking your smoke. Then I have right to complain.

Thats fair enough, well, I'm right on the Med so I'll blow my smoke over in the direction of the Italians and hope it doesnt head up your way. :p
 
Diesel drivers are just as bad as smokers for contribution to lung cancers

Of course they are, and Ive had 3 diesel trucks and diggers outside my apartment for 5 weeks 5 days a week. Pretty sure they have caused more harm to the people around here than my 2nd hand smoke but I cant see the people rising up to get them banned from public places. :p
 
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