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2000 Civic Hatchback 5 door 1.8i VTi
Body style Hatchback 5 door
Colour Baikal Green Pearl
Transmission Manual
Fuel Petrol
Mileage 39,000
Price £4,900
Date of registration 28/05/1999
Registration number T788DBY
Distance from you 0 miles
Approved Used Car Yes
Comments about this car
Full service history. Two registered owners

was just looking at this might go for a test drive plus they are doing that 2 years free service on used cars this weekend. what u guys think
 
They are good understated motors IMO. Faster than they look and have the fantastic B-series VTEC engine. I owned an ex-demo one for 65,000 miles and it was a fantastic car.
Drop the Integra gear box in there for a good mod :D The standard gearbox throws you out of the power on upshifts even when bouncing off the limiter which knocks the 0-60 down incomparison to the Integra which is essentially the same engine.
Not sure on the price TBH, most of the others to compare to have double that mileage for the year on Autotrader.
Things to be aware of:
Gearbox can go quite crunchy changing from 1st to 2nd due to the syncro wearing. Mine went at around 60,000 and was 700 quid including a new clutch from main dealer...but this could be down to my hard driving style ;)
Insurance is quite pricey but is in line with the performance really.
Handling can be a little wooly if you push it to the edge IMO, decent tyres can help negate that somewhat.
Dealer servicing/repairs can be had for decent prices now on older Hondas with fixed pricing thanks to the Honda Happiness scheme. Cambelt and oilchange service for a reasonable 200 notes (and you get to rag the backside off a Jazz/Civic for the day).

Anything else give us a shout, there are a couple of other owners/ex-owners on here from what I remember.

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When you go on the test drive, rev the nuts off it. Seriously it will seem a pretty lame car until you get it up to 6k on the revs. I wasnt going to buy mine until the dealer showed me what the Vtec was all about LOL
 
Bobbler said:
Drop the Integra gear box in there for a good mod :D The standard gearbox throws you out of the power on upshifts even when bouncing off the limiter which knocks the 0-60 down incomparison to the Integra which is essentially the same engine.##

:o
Not this tripe again.
 
£5k seems on the stupid side of extortionate. The whole point in these cars is they are great value, which over-rides the fact they are dull as ditchwater interior and exterior styling wise.

£5k is not good value. Find a cheaper one.
 
I might be selling mine, (subject to a car I plan to see tomorrow) where abouts are you?

They are very good cars, in 2 years Ive had no problems at all.
Good performance and handling and excellent practicality.
 
Jonnycoupe said:
:o
Not this tripe again.

Nice constructive post then?
So please, enlighten me as to how its tripe as you put it?
Maybe I am wrong somehow, I dont mind being corrected if indeed that is the case, but can you explain it to me?
Civic and Integra are essentially the same engine bar some fettling. The VTI gearbox DOES drop you out of the "zone" so to speak on upshift even when bouncing the limiter. So what's wrong?
 
Seems like you are paying through the nose for it being a 2000 one, AFAIK you should be able to get a 99 one for about a grand less than that. I'd try and get a VTI-S as well, looks a bit nicer with the side skirts and bumper lip.

As said, understated cars. They are reasonably quick as long as you drive them hard. I'm a bit too lazy (most of the time). Quite a bit of road noise, comfortable enough but by no means a quiet car.

You should be able to get 32mpg day do day driving sensibly with the odd blast of acceleration.
 
Its not really the gearbox thats the problem.

The gearbox is great for motorway and cruising along and even on track it isnt too bad.

The main issue with the car is the ECU and the poor map that it has standard.
Get this changed so that the vtec x-over point is dropped lower and the air/fuel to match and you will have a stonking car. The B18C4 seems to have been detuned for some reason :confused:

You are right the bobbler the gearbox does indeed help the 1st to 2nd change but with the teg box you will have quite high revs on the motorway so maybe not always the best solution.

I agree with Fox though it is overpriced. Dont be afraid to get a couple of years older example with even double that miles on it. If its in good nick it will do interstellar amounts ;)
 
TheDome said:
Its not really the gearbox thats the problem.

The gearbox is great for motorway and cruising along and even on track it isnt too bad.

The main issue with the car is the ECU and the poor map that it has standard.
Get this changed so that the vtec x-over point is dropped lower and the air/fuel to match and you will have a stonking car. The B18C4 seems to have been detuned for some reason :confused:

Because it was quicker than the 3 door more "sporty" VTi so the 5-door was "detuned".
 
Welcome to the fold. First off that car is VERY expensive. I got my '99 T Reg VTI-S for £3500 with 54k on the clock, pretty much mint from a dealer. Admittedly it was a good deal but that was still only about a year ago. If you have £5k and can afford the insurance - get a Teg, simple as.

The VTI-S does look better in my opinion with the kit and the slightly fancier alloys. Reliability is very sound, i've had to do nothing to mine (touch wood) since i've had it apart from service it. Comes with half leather buckety-type seats but the interior is not its greatest strength, doesn't bother me too much but it is comparatively basic compared to other cars and the trim could be compared to a bus seat.

The lump is basically a detuned DC2 integra type-r lump, same block but with different inlet manifold (dual runner for torque at low revs), throttle body, exhaust manifold and exhaust, CR, no mild port and polish etc etc amongst other things. DC2 runs at 190bhp and the 1.8vti 167bhp. Someone on Honda Revs (Mr Doerr) allegedly has got 188bhp from an exhaust + decat and decent intake and unichip (i think thats all, i'm sure "someone" will correct me if i'm wrong).

I've got pirates black paint on mine, which is proving a bit of a nightmare as it chips very easily - does look beautiful when polished up a goodun, even if it does only last a day :p

Other things to look out for - the suspension can be a bit weak, and certainly can do with upgrading, haven't done mine yet but Dolph seems impressed with his springs and dampers.

Modifications wise, they respond well to an exhaust and decat, i've got a Mongoose one on mine kindly fitted by Mr Skywalker. The standard intake is allegedly very good and ive left that till last pretty much even though i have an ITG maxogen waiting to go in. I've also dropped an HKS 4-2-1 manifold in as well as the stock manifold is restrictive and a lot heavier. I've also dropped the integra box in too for a lot less than £600 fitted i might add and regardless what anyone who doesn't have practical experience of it may say, it's made a heck of a difference and is without a doubt the best mod i've done. As said before, any 1.8vti drivers who want to try it out at a meet are more than welcome as long as they are careful and their insurance covers. They can judge for themselves as they will be completely impartial. Im not and have never said that it will beat an evo with the box, only that it straightens out a lot of problems and certainly makes acceleration a lot lot better.

Jonnycoupe, you seem to have a massive chip on your shoulder. It seems you cannot reply in a thread to a poster you disagree with, without trolling the hell out of it. Why is it so difficult for you to reason with people just like anyone else? Fancy justifying your point?

TheDome said:
You are right the bobbler the gearbox does indeed help the 1st to 2nd change but with the teg box you will have quite high revs on the motorway so maybe not always the best solution.

To be honest mate 4th and 5th are the same ratios i believe and 70mph does sit the same with the Teg box as the stock box rpm wise in 5th.
 
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Having owned a VTI at the same time as Gaijin with his his ITR box and mine with a standard box, It drops the 0-60 by a good second and is noticeably different.

But that one is a wee bit pricey . I sold my 99 plate with 49999 miles on the clock for £3000 , This was to a dealer but he then sold it on for £4000.

For £5000 you can now pick up a ATR , The milage will be higher though .
 
Gaijin said:
Quick Snip

Cheers for that Gaijin. I knew someone had done the swap with positive results, rather than it apparently resulting in tripe :p
I only wish I had known I could have got the ITR gearbox at the time my VTI one went pearshaped for that sort of money, I went for the whole ITR in the end instead after knocking off 40 miles of motorway commute on the head a couple of years back. The teg would be pretty much unbearable for me on that sort of daily drive and not what its about really.

I think the car the OP is looking at is a VTI-S according to the Autotrader advert...assume its the correct one, number plate matches. Though it looks identical to my old VTI :confused:
 
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Gaijin said:
To be honest mate 4th and 5th are the same ratios i believe and 70mph does sit the same with the Teg box as the stock box rpm wise in 5th.


They aint the same in 4th and 5th.....they are quite different

4th on the standard box goes to 120...while 4th with the ITR box goes to 100

5th on the standard box goes too 145+ while 5th on the ITR box goes to 130

Here are the ratios

Integra Type R (S80, JDM post 98/UK spec)
1st 3.230
2nd 2.105
3rd 1.458
4th 1.034
5th 0.787
Reverse 3.000
Final Drive 4.785

MB6 1.8 Civic VTi (S9B)
1st 3.230
2nd 1.900
3rd 1.360
4th 1.034
5th 0.848
Reverse 3.000
Final Drive 4.266

You can see they aint the same.............and just for the record i also have a S80 box on my Mb6 and the results for sure aint tripe........but its not really curing the issue mearly hiding it.. to cure it a different ECu or the likes of a unichip would be needed.
 
I just got a Powerflow CAT back system on mine with a 3.5" backbox. I had the guy who built it recommended to me by a few people I know and its a bit quieter than the Mongoose but sounds sexual under acceleration. Lovely bit of burble.

R.E Fox's comment that they look dull as dishwater, tis true they are nothing special. Basically a Rover 45. But that was half the appeal for me. The interior is perfectly laid out IMO. Everything is uncluttered. Mine is de-badged at the back so I love surprising people when I can be bothered to put my foot down a bit.
 
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gazzaa said:
just got a insurance quote £480 fc

Now please find one not as expensive, As said the dealer sold mine for £4000 and it was the mintest one around. If your looking at £5000 please look into the acoord type R

I paid £4000 for this one

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