classic media player

jonnyp1993

jonnyp1993

jonnyp1993

Associate
Joined
28 Feb 2013
Posts
1,710
Location
Leeds
Hey guus. I have just built a htpc. Specs as follows

Gigabytr 78lmt-usb3
Corsair xms3 1333 ddr3 2x2gb
Gf gt610 512mb
Amd phenom ii x2 550 be 3.1
Kingston v300 60gb ssd

When i am watching 1080 or 720 movies somtimes its like its in slow motion lol. I noticed when watching a film last night that when it did it my cpu temp reached 52. Is that normal. Or Is it down the player ?
I have enabled it so that the gfx card does all the work. But its still doig it somtimes. And only when there is a lot going on on the screen. I.e the cogs at the start of a film. It was like everything slowed down lol

Any suggestions would be great

Thanks
 
bledd. said:
Do you mean Media Player Classic?

Never liked klite, it's a shotgun blast approach.


Get mpc-be, you'll need to update DX9 too.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpcbe/

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=35


Check you've got the latest Nvidia drivers installed.
Click to expand...

Ye that one lol. I got recommended by somone ages ago to use klite because i was using vlc before. I will try that mpc. All my dx and drivers are upto date aswell.

Ill let you know when i finish work how it is. See if its doing the same.
Thank you
 
I'd remove klite

MPC-BE should have all it needs built into it to play videos correctly. Same goes for VLC.
 
I've seen similar problems with the newer builds of MPC when their offloading MKV processing to my ATI card. For some reason the quality is crud, the motion is a bit erratic and the voice sync is slipping where it ran fine a few months ago. Same file plays fine and in pin sharp detail via VLC.

No K-lite pack etc, just a bare Windows 7 install plus the media apps. I gave up looking at it after 2 minutes and went back to using my Mac mini!
 
jonnyp1993 said:
Ill let you know when i finish work how it is. See if its doing the same.
Thank you
Click to expand...

If you're still getting problems, try doing it this way:

1. Uninstall K-Lite (and any other codec packs). If the Haali splitter is installed, make sure that's uninstalled as well.
2. Download and install the latest LAV filters.
3. Fire up MPC-BE, go into View > Options > Player > Formats and set your file associations.
4. Go into "Internal Filters," then in each tab (Source Filters, Video Decoders and Audio Decoders) right-click anywhere and select "Disable All Filters" (if you're using MPC-HC, it's all in one tab, so just do the same for "Source Filters" and "Transform Filters").
5. Go to "External Filters, hit "Add Filter" and add LAV Splitter, Lav Video Decoder and LAV Audio Decoder.
6. Select (left-click) each one in turn, and hit the "Prefer" radio button.

You have a fairly weedy video card, so the next bit may need some experimentation:

7. In "External Filters," double-click on LAV Video Decoder (this will bring up the LAV video configuration). In the top-right, you'll see a dropdown list under "Hardware acceleration to use," and you should have the choices of None (CPU only), NVIDIA CUVID, DVXA2 (copyback) and DVXA2 (native) - try them all with a high-bitrate 1080p video playing, and see which one gives you the best results.

The above setup also gives you the option to use the madVR renderer - you probably won't see much difference if you only ever watch 1080p material, but it has some very advanced upscaling algorithms which can make a *big* difference with 720p stuff or lower on a 1080p screen. The downside is you'll need a reasonable GFX card to get the best out of it, and a GT610 probably won't cut it unless you use the very lowest settings.
 
CaptainCrash said:
If you're still getting problems, try doing it this way:

1. Uninstall K-Lite (and any other codec packs). If the Haali splitter is installed, make sure that's uninstalled as well.
2. Download and install the latest LAV filters.
3. Fire up MPC-BE, go into View > Options > Player > Formats and set your file associations.
4. Go into "Internal Filters," then in each tab (Source Filters, Video Decoders and Audio Decoders) right-click anywhere and select "Disable All Filters" (if you're using MPC-HC, it's all in one tab, so just do the same for "Source Filters" and "Transform Filters").
5. Go to "External Filters, hit "Add Filter" and add LAV Splitter, Lav Video Decoder and LAV Audio Decoder.
6. Select (left-click) each one in turn, and hit the "Prefer" radio button.

You have a fairly weedy video card, so the next bit may need some experimentation:

7. In "External Filters," double-click on LAV Video Decoder (this will bring up the LAV video configuration). In the top-right, you'll see a dropdown list under "Hardware acceleration to use," and you should have the choices of None (CPU only), NVIDIA CUVID, DVXA2 (copyback) and DVXA2 (native) - try them all with a high-bitrate 1080p video playing, and see which one gives you the best results.

The above setup also gives you the option to use the madVR renderer - you probably won't see much difference if you only ever watch 1080p material, but it has some very advanced upscaling algorithms which can make a *big* difference with 720p stuff or lower on a 1080p screen. The downside is you'll need a reasonable GFX card to get the best out of it, and a GT610 probably won't cut it unless you use the very lowest settings.
Click to expand...

Hi. Will do. Thank you for the step by step. I would be lost otherwise lol.
If my gfx card isnt upto it. What card would you recommend ? Cheaper the better to br honest lol
Thanks again

Jonnyp
 
jonnyp1993 said:
Hi. Will do. Thank you for the step by step. I would be lost otherwise lol.
If my gfx card isnt upto it. What card would you recommend ? Cheaper the better to br honest lol
Thanks again

Jonnyp
Click to expand...
It really depends how far you want to go (or to what extent you get bitten by the HTPC bug) - if you just want basic functionality, your existing GT610 *should* do the job, but if you do still have issues then a GT640 should handle anything you throw at it. On the other hand, if you want to use madVR with 3-tap Jinc upscaling, I wouldn't go lower than a GTX650Ti, and if you want to mess around with SVP you're looking at a complete system upgrade.

I don't know what the current equivalent AMD recommendations for HTPC use would be, their drivers make me cry, so I've tended to avoid them on the grounds that life's too short. :)
 
CaptainCrash said:
It really depends how far you want to go (or to what extent you get bitten by the HTPC bug) - if you just want basic functionality, your existing GT610 *should* do the job, but if you do still have issues then a GT640 should handle anything you throw at it. On the other hand, if you want to use madVR with 3-tap Jinc upscaling, I wouldn't go lower than a GTX650Ti, and if you want to mess around with SVP you're looking at a complete system upgrade.

I don't know what the current equivalent AMD recommendations for HTPC use would be, their drivers make me cry, so I've tended to avoid them on the grounds that life's too short. :)
Click to expand...

Lol. Im not a fan of amd either lol. Im not lookig for a mega htpc. I just want basic system that will play mkv ect 1080 p smoothly and no hic ups. I havnt a clue what svp or madvr awith 3 tap is lol. I didnt know it existed haha. I will have alook at a gt640 :)

Thank you :D
 
CaptainCrash said:
You're welcome, and fixed for you. :D
Click to expand...

hey, i have downloaded MPC, and done everything as you told me to (good step by step by the way :) ), and its still jerking/slow motion, so im just gunna have to see if i can get hold of a graphics card.

just a little question, in my old HTPC, i only had a GF 210 1GB and that played everything fine, with a amd athlon 250 and 4gb ddr3, that didnt struggle at all.

or does the diffrence between 1gb and 512 make a big diffrence ?

Thank you,
 
It shouldn't make that much difference, no... in one of my old builds I was using a 256MB 8600GT and that (mostly) worked fine. It did however have some trouble with later versions of the LAV filters - I remember having to roll back to an earlier build (0.50.5 IIRC) to avoid stuttering problems. You could give that a shot (get it here, and uninstall 0.56.2 first) and see if things improve.

You could also try VLC Media Player - that uses its own unique self-contained codecs, and so does XBMC in its default configuration using the inbuilt player (there's a big thread in the Home Cinema & Hi-Fi subforum).

The GT 610 (really just a rebranded GT 520) *should* be strong enough for "normal" use in theory, but the trouble is, there's so many possible combinations of hardware/software/drivers/codecs it can be difficult to nail down the exact problem.
 
CaptainCrash said:
It shouldn't make that much difference, no... in one of my old builds I was using a 256MB 8600GT and that (mostly) worked fine. It did however have some trouble with later versions of the LAV filters - I remember having to roll back to an earlier build (0.50.5 IIRC) to avoid stuttering problems. You could give that a shot (get it here, and uninstall 0.56.2 first) and see if things improve.

You could also try VLC Media Player - that uses its own unique self-contained codecs, and so does XBMC in its default configuration using the inbuilt player (there's a big thread in the Home Cinema & Hi-Fi subforum).

The GT 610 (really just a rebranded GT 520) *should* be strong enough for "normal" use in theory, but the trouble is, there's so many possible combinations of hardware/software/drivers/codecs it can be difficult to nail down the exact problem.
Click to expand...

I have gone and bought a 2nd hand hd5770 1gb lol. Only paid 30 quid for it so thought what the hello lol. Just doing a fresh instal of win 7 now so gna get it all setup. Will let you know how it goes.

I know its amd :( but it was cheap and its not that bad of a card from what i have read up on the net.

:)
 
jonnyp1993 said:
I have gone and bought a 2nd hand hd5770 1gb lol. Only paid 30 quid for it so thought what the hello lol. Just doing a fresh instal of win 7 now so gna get it all setup. Will let you know how it goes.

I know its amd :( but it was cheap and its not that bad of a card from what i have read up on the net.

:)
Click to expand...

5770 is more of a medium gaming card :p. So it will be a massive GPU performance boost over the 610.

+1 to CaptainCrash's setup, I have something similiar to that.

To be honest, I prefer video playback on low end AMD cards compared to low end Nvidia cards, quality wise it seems better on AMD. And 1080p playback is fine on my onboard 6620G on my laptop. I had a 5770 before with a Phenom II X4 previously as well, and that pretty much played 1080p perfectly with power to spare.
 
Orcvader said:
5770 is more of a medium gaming card :p. So it will be a massive GPU performance boost over the 610.

+1 to CaptainCrash's setup, I have something similiar to that.

To be honest, I prefer video playback on low end AMD cards compared to low end Nvidia cards, quality wise it seems better on AMD. And 1080p playback is fine on my onboard 6620G on my laptop. I had a 5770 before with a Phenom II X4 previously as well, and that pretty much played 1080p perfectly with power to spare.
Click to expand...

Good. At least i can play some games now lol
And watch movies of course... :)
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom