Cold boot problem after moving to new case!

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Hi there.

Moved all my existing hardware (see sig) from my old Chieftec case to a nice shiny Lian Li.

Took all the usual precautions, anti-static wrist strap etc.
Tried to re-assemble machine in the new case, as it was in the old case.
Even to plugging sata HDs into the same sockets and PCI card in same etc. Only thing just "shoved in any which way", were the USB devices (6 in total I think).

On the first cold boot, fans all spin, mobo beeps once, appears to POST ok and the "Windows starting" logo appears. Screen usually goes blank, then the login screen should appear. But screen stays blank. WHOOPS.

Press restart button on PC and it goes through the normal power on cycle as above, but then comes up with the screen warning you that Windows did not shut down correctly. Giving you two options, to do a repair, or start normally.

So I select "repair". It then tells you to stick the Windows dic in and restart the PC. Below this is the following message.

"The boot selection failed because a required device is inaccessible".

O'dear thinks I.

So I stick my Windows disk in and after it loads it's files. I select the repair option. Almost immediately it tells me the boot file is corrupt and it will repair it. This is all it tries to do... IE. it does not offer anything else.

So I think it's sorted. Until the next day and same cold boot problem. and same message about "the boot selection failed.........."

So I try putting Windows disk in again and try a repair. This time, no warning about the boot file, but it offers me the chance to restore to a previous date/time, I decline this and it runs a load of other checks / tests. Which it appears to pass. Accept for some sort of check sum failure right at the end. IE. It offers no solution!

But if you ignore the cold boot failure and do a hardware restart (press button on top of PC) and tell it to start Windows normally. It loads Windows fine. You can then do whatever you like (games, bench marks etc. etc. etc.) and all appears well. It's just from a cold start it throws a wobbly. You can also do a software restart (IE. START, shut down options / restart) and that's also fine.

All the same hardware had been running fine in the previous case for about 8 months. Not a single problem. Rock solid 100% stable.

I've checked all cabling (several times), reset BIOS to optimal defaults, restricted BOOT order to just the hard drive. All temps appear fine, Intel Burn Test works a treal, Furmark, 3Dmar Vantage, games .... everything.

Just at a loss to know what I could have done moving the components from one case to another.

Suggestions anyone??? Any help would be much appreciated.

Notes
- PSU is only around 2 years old and been fine before this. So doubt it's that!?
- No message in the Event Viewer. Other than the one pointing out "The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. ".
- No components were altered, or changed.
 
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Hmm, this is just about the same problem that I've been having with my rig for the last 6 months!

I was thinking my psu wasn't up to it as unplugging any one of the hdd's results in a perfect cold boot (it's also been getting a bit noisy too), but now I'm starting to think otherwise.

The only components we have in common are the motherboard and memory. I usually run memtest once a month and it always passes fine so that just leaves the mobo.

Mines now two and a half years old and has been running almost 24/7 and clocked up from new, so maybe it should be getting a little flakey by now?

(also found that unplugging rarely used usb devices helps with the boot-up too)
 
Hi there slowrunner

Thanks for the reply.

I ran Western Digitals bootable diagnostic tool to check my boot drive (a WD VelociRaptor) and the quick test says it's fine. So that should eliminate the boot drive I suppose.

As I still had the boot drive from when I had Vista X64, I've got that currently hooked up. Though it's taking a while to run through almost 8 months of Windows etc. updates. But if it cold boots from this... then as far as I can see, that would just leave the Windows 7 installation on the Raptor as the culprit. Though how that gets damaged in just moving all my parts between two cases, is anyone's guess!!!

I'll report back when I've finished updating the Vista drive. As an aside, I had almost forgotten how long Vista took to load!

TBC as they say.

PS. I've stuck with my P35 board up till now because it's been 100% rock solid stable. And I could just not see the point in upgrading. The new case was just a luxury.
 
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Hmm, interesting.

I've got a new psu coming tommorow (hopefully), if it's no better with just that I'm going to have a shuffle of the drives and maybe do a fresh install (I'm on vistax64 btw). If that don't cure it then I think the only thing left to look at is the hdd controller.
 
The continuing saga.

Finally finished updating my 8 month old Vista x64 boot drive. And was expecting it to cold boot fine but no...

After the "Windows starting" message, screen goes blank and after a while I get a BSOD with the following old chestnut:

"Attempt to reset the display driver & recover from a time out failed"

Now the graphics drivers on this disk will be the ones that were fine back last October.

Now whether this is related, or just a one off, or another issue. Not sure. Computers... I want to scream sometimes.

So... as getting near to lunchtime. Removed graphics card. Then removed CMOS battery and left it while I had lunch.

Put CMOS battery back in and then reseated graphics card. And booted Vista disk again. Windows warned me system did not shut down properly, but I selected "start Windows normally". And after the usual Vista pause, I get the chance to login and into my desktop. All appears fine. But I suspect if I cold boot again, it will throw a wobbly. O'hum.

So.... left wondering what's going on.

As an interesting aside (interesting?). When I ran 3Dmark Vantage on the Windows 7 disk originally, I was getting GPU scores about a third less than when I ran it last time. Same in 3Dmark06. Tried this on he Vista boot disk and the same think was happening! Only hard ware change, was moving from a 19in 1280x1024 LCD, to a 24in 1920x1080 screen. But I thought 3Dmark programs automatically choose a default resolution? IE. 1280x1024. So would not have expected this to change things.... Maybe not related to current problem/s though?!?!

Think I'll download the latest graphics drivers for my card for Vista disk and see what happens on cold boot this time.

I think this could take a while to sort (already spent ages fiddling around).
 
Interesting.

After updating drivers to the latest (on Vista x64 disk), version 257.21
Ran 3Dmark vantage and my score is back to where it should have been!

Now to try a cold boot.
 
At last... some progress. The Vista disk appears to cold boot OK now.

Could this have been something as simple as the graphics card not being seated fully!?

Fingers crossed.

I will shut down and re-connect the Windows 7 disk and see what happens.

Pray for me folks.
 
WWWWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOPPPEEEEEEEEEE

I think!

Re-connected the Windows 7 disk. Booted, then shut down and had a cup of tea. Then did normal cold boot and yes it now appears fine. Long may it last.

So I'm sort of assuming that the graphics card was not seated correctly / fully, or maybe a bit of grease on one or more of the connectors. And removing it and re-fitting it made a better connection. Did not bother updating the graphics drivers on the Windows 7 disk. Think I will leave well alone for a while now.

Suppose it's like life in general. Sometimes the simplest thing causes a problem. Just wish that I had thought to try this before. I sort of assumed that the card was either in, or out. And if not seated correctly, it would just not work. Looks not to be the case. Might help someone else in the future if they read this.

Have fun out there.
 
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