Colin Powell dead.

jsmoke · 18 Oct 2021 at 14:38

First rip.

How time flies, he was 84 yet sometimes seems not long ago he was regularly on the news due to Afghanistan and Iraq.

Was he the good guy, a man of high conscience, I assume he quit or was kicked out due to his opposition of the Iraq war.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/oct/18/colin-powell-us-secretary-of-state-dies-covid-84

adolf hamster · 18 Oct 2021 at 14:54

Thekwango said:
what's that got to do with the chaps death?

because he died from covid despite being fully vaccinated.

whether it's intended to be sincere or comedic it's incredibly poor form.

Thekwango · 18 Oct 2021 at 14:58

adolf hamster said:
because he died from covid despite being fully vaccinated.

whether it's intended to be sincere or comedic it's incredibly poor form.

still don't get what calling those who take the vaccine lemmings has to do with anything. but i see the original post has been deleted and swept under the carpet to avoid having to force the poster to answer the questions his post posed. which in all likelihood the poster could not do or had he done would have resulted in suspension or permanent ban for them.

Moley · 18 Oct 2021 at 15:02

adolf hamster said:
because he died from covid despite being fully vaccinated.

Powell was fighting Parkinson's disease. He died of covid complications - which basically means his system was so compromised by the Parkinson's that his body wasn't capable of producing enough antibodies to the vaccine for it to be effective.

He was killed by a combination of the two and this in no way supports any crack-pot theories about the vaccine being ineffective.

Werewolf · 18 Oct 2021 at 15:05

If we can keep this on topic.
I deleted the precious posts because i don't want it derailed completely by a very misguided comment.

I may not have agreed with his politics at all, but Colin Powell achieved a massive amount and helped path the way for a lot of others at a time when just being born who he was would have been a major impediment.

something daft already!! · 18 Oct 2021 at 15:07

Moley said:
Powell was fighting Parkinson's disease. He died of covid complications - which basically means his system was so compromised by the Parkinson's that his body wasn't capable of producing enough antibodies to the vaccine for it to be effective.

He was killed by a combination of the two and this in no way supports any crack-pot theories about the vaccine being ineffective.

RIP

Parkinson's will not affect the immune system.

JRS · 18 Oct 2021 at 15:17

something daft already!! said:
Parkinson's will not affect the immune system.

No, but the multiple myeloma (cancer of the blood plasma cells) will have affected it.

Werewolf said:
I may not have agreed with his politics at all, but Colin Powell achieved a massive amount and helped path the way for a lot of others at a time when just being born who he was would have been a major impediment.

My thoughts exactly. He leaves behind a complicated legacy, but a legacy nonetheless.

Chris Wilson · 18 Oct 2021 at 15:23

Very sad, I always held him in very high regard, age and a serious primary illness take some beating if Covid puts its motty in as well

Moley · 18 Oct 2021 at 15:24

something daft already!! said:
RIP
Parkinson's will not affect the immune system.

Studies have shown that Parkinson's is strongly correlated with an already broken immune system. My basic point stands - the combination of Parkinson's and Covid killed him, where as without Parkinson's he may well have lived. Of course the combination of being 84 and having Covid could have killed him too.

Hades · 18 Oct 2021 at 15:27

Wow, remember him on the news as if it was yesterday. RiP

Dis86 · 18 Oct 2021 at 15:39

Respect alone for convincing the world his name was coe lin. Even his own mum said it was Colin!

Uther · 18 Oct 2021 at 16:24

Dis86 said:
Respect alone for convincing the world his name was coe lin. Even his own mum said it was Colin!

I always thought he was making that up.

robfosters · 18 Oct 2021 at 16:31

Co lin sounded more badass. Always thought he seemed a stand up guy and a strong man with integrity.

RIP.

nine_tails · 18 Oct 2021 at 17:11

GGizmo · 18 Oct 2021 at 17:29

adolf hamster · 18 Oct 2021 at 17:30

Moley said:
Powell was fighting Parkinson's disease. He died of covid complications - which basically means his system was so compromised by the Parkinson's that his body wasn't capable of producing enough antibodies to the vaccine for it to be effective.

He was killed by a combination of the two and this in no way supports any crack-pot theories about the vaccine being ineffective.

i do agree.

however regardless of the how, he's now passed, RIP.

Dis86 · 18 Oct 2021 at 18:23

Uther said:
I always thought he was making that up.

Nope. He took it after a ww2 hero.

Whitewater · 18 Oct 2021 at 18:28

RIP Colin.

Energize · 18 Oct 2021 at 22:24

Moley said:
Studies have shown that Parkinson's is strongly correlated with an already broken immune system. My basic point stands - the combination of Parkinson's and Covid killed him, where as without Parkinson's he may well have lived. Of course the combination of being 84 and having Covid could have killed him too.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/18/us/politics/colin-powell-dead.html

A spokeswoman said his immune system had been compromised by multiple myeloma, for which he had been undergoing treatment. He had been due to receive a booster shot for his vaccine last week, she said, but had to postpone it when he fell ill.

Early stage Parkinson's wouldn't have been a significant contributing factor to his death, it's a movement disorder that makes someone a bit stiff in the early stages and is easily controlled with medication.

Lyla77 · 18 Oct 2021 at 22:40

RIP Colin