Command & Conquer 4 [Rant]

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Just Played it and...........well to put it shortly it is the most terrible game I
have played all year!

Why just to start at the bread and butter of RTS games I suppose that most
have some form of resource collection that you have to balance with offense
and defence. EA have been crafty and called it a real time tactics game and
pretty much all it boils in the attack and defence part of the multiplayer
games is you spam units that can easily destroy MCVs (or at least that was
the message I got from the beta and my brief play on C&C 4 multiplayer).
This is so the player cannot produce any more units and you can making it
easy to mop up any straggling units and defences with no power. All this
happens while your opponent waits to re-spawn so they can try and stop
you from doing too much damage. The only time you can't do this nuke there
MCV's only you win is in single player as there is usually some time limit in
place which means you can't just play a game of whack the weasel with the
MCV destroying units.

Now to the resource bit and this may surprise you but there isn't a lot of it
as each player gets a set amount of points they can use (50 usually, which
is about 8-10 tanks or 15 troops) but as troops die you get all of your points
back from each unit so most just end up making more units at complete ease
and uncaring to what happens to them as it won't make a huge difference.
This has also made players who tend to rush zerg style have an easier time.

Buildings construction has also gone except for the MCV (at a stretch) which
means that while everything is easily in one place that also means it is easy
to kill off your entire unit building line in one sweep. While don't get me
wrong this makes it far more tactical decisions where you place your MCV
and how you advance with your MCV. It is also become so easy yet also
very pointless to destroy your opponents MCV as your opponent gets
another one for free in 30 seconds unlike in the older games if you lost your
base or main MCV early in the game it was more or less game over unless
you had hidden an engineer, a way to get another MCV built or had a base
tucked away somewhere.

Now over to story where it is pretty much just some bland cut scenes that
have been stuck together and leave even more questions at the end as it
tells you absolutely nothing about what you were aiming for or what has
happened throughout the game with even entire large sections of cannon
being pulled out of the game.

Another bit that isn't as important game play wise but still important to me is
DRM which still isn't working for many players as EA still have not managed to
get this right even now!

In-fact! EA you have made me look far more favourably on C&C Generals and
Renegade. While I had some specific small hate against those games this
C&C4 has made me see them in a new more brighter light.

So EA, at the end of the day this giant turd of a command and conquer
game you have delivered is what it has taken to bring my quality guide down
and likely killed off any possible series which for me as a long time fan of the
series is not a good moment for me as I really wanted this game to do well!
 
I agree C&C4 was such a bad game that i was suffering from some thing i could only describe as mild shock after playing it for an hour. :(



The DRM was just a nightmare for me.
 
i'm sure those in the beta warned of how bad it was, also it was pointed out it would have really bad DRM a few days before its release.

a little research would have saved you a little cash.
 
EA Destroyed the whole franchise after RA3.

C&C3 was good but everything after seems to be a bit of a disaster.
 
The last C&C that I truly enjoyed was Red Alert 2 when they were still developed by Westwood, since EA got their hands on it its never been the same.
 
I liked C&C3 and RA3 was ok (mostly for the babe eye candy)

I've only played the first level of C&C4 and it's already dreadful. No base bulding, no resource collection, no babes in the cut scenes! (Grace Park in C&C3 was lush!) feels like Total war series which i hate as well.
 
I actually really enjoyed Generals, most people seemed not to though :(.

Tah for that post though, I was already avoiding it but now it hasn't even got a look in :).
 
C&C3 was terrible and with RTS games all over the board going downhill i can't begin to imagine how bad C&C4 has become...
 
I thought C&C 3 was a bit rubbish, even after being a pretty long term fan of Generals: Zero Hour. Generals itself is a bit pants, Zero Hour really makes it into a decent RTS.

My main gripe with C&C 3 was that the difficulty varied hugely between easily-run through maps, to ultra hard ones defending on all sides with little or no hope of building enough units to advance on the enemy, who seemed to have limitless resources - and all at the same difficulty setting!

If this is how bad C&C 4 is, along with the DRM that alone is enough for me to not buy it, I dont think I'd even waste my bandwidth downloading this.
 
I thought C&C 3 was a bit rubbish, even after being a pretty long term fan of Generals: Zero Hour. Generals itself is a bit pants, Zero Hour really makes it into a decent RTS.

My main gripe with C&C 3 was that the difficulty varied hugely between easily-run through maps, to ultra hard ones defending on all sides with little or no hope of building enough units to advance on the enemy, who seemed to have limitless resources - and all at the same difficulty setting!

If this is how bad C&C 4 is, along with the DRM that alone is enough for me to not buy it, I dont think I'd even waste my bandwidth downloading this.

My personal favourite with 'balancing' on the campaign was 1 mission where the enemy base i had to conquer was absolutely packed with the top level shielded assault vehicle (tripod or whatever it was, stolen directly from war of the worlds :p). Even unloading superweapons on them was ineffective as it'd only manage to destroy the shields.
 
did you really expect it to be good? honestly? really?

c+c is stuck in the stone ages, and hasnt been good since c+c2

Do you mean Red Alert or Tiberian Sun? If your referring to the latter as being good then you don't have your head screwed on right! :p

Seriously though I liked C&C3, and the coop mode of RA3 is quite fun, everything else in that game is bad and by the sounds of it C&C4 is the C&C franchise going from bad to worse.

DRM and now bad gameplay too, do they want anyone to buy this game franchise again?
 
My personal favourite with 'balancing' on the campaign was 1 mission where the enemy base i had to conquer was absolutely packed with the top level shielded assault vehicle (tripod or whatever it was, stolen directly from war of the worlds :p). Even unloading superweapons on them was ineffective as it'd only manage to destroy the shields.

Was that the mission where you first got the top-class Alliance tanks, yet they were too slow and got missile infantry-spammed to death whenever they tried to move out of your base? Or did I not even get to that level?
 
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