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Competition to Intel and AMD

Hades said:
Didn't Via buy Cyrix and it became their C3 and Eden range?

according to what ive just been reading:
IDT - Centaur WinChip 3 / C7
Centaur's WinChip 3 was supposed to be available in early 1999, but wouldn't scale past 300MHz. This was formerly the WinChip 2+, but was renamed WinChip3. What happened to the old WinChip3? It was then called WinChip 4. It continued with Centaur's philosophy of small die size (76 square mm), low price, and competitive performance. The WinChip is now owned by Via.

http://www.geek.com/procspec/idt/c7.htm

they bought IDT winchip.

as for cyrix i dont know what happened to the company really, but they made bloody awful chips.
 
bfar said:
I guarantee we'll be dealing with entirely different companies in 20 years time.

not likely, the current cpu companys are now far too large and far too entrenched. only the bankruptcy of AMD or Intel would cause enough of a shift for new players to come in because if either went under, its tech would then be sold on to new players in the market who would continue working on the previous firms platforms and release there own.

presently depite drops in revenues, the share prices for both intel and AMD have remained strong and the companys viable. neither of them are going anywhere.
 
locutus12 said:
not likely, the current cpu companys are now far too large and far too entrenched. only the bankruptcy of AMD or Intel would cause enough of a shift for new players to come in because if either went under, its tech would then be sold on to new players in the market who would continue working on the previous firms platforms and release there own.

presently depite drops in revenues, the share prices for both intel and AMD have remained strong and the companys viable. neither of them are going anywhere.

I'm sure that's what people said of IBM's hardware dominance in the 80's. Nowadays they are moving more and more towards software and consultancy. Personally I'd expect at least one major new player in the next 8 to 10 years.
 
tomos said:
any reason why IBM cant join the game again? sure they have an x86 licence dont they?

Hmmm they probably do. But do they need to run x86? Their main consumer CPU is Power (e.g. the old Powermacs and the basis for the Cell). Why is x86 essential? There's an assumption here that we will still all be running Windows. Personally I think the chances of that are not as great as the vast majority think.
 
because thats what the general public expect and for anything else to replace windows, it will have to win them over. not those in the know, but the clueless masses

i am hoping that apple release osx for PCs in general and they and microsoft fight it out a bit over OS development.

maybe in a few years, linux will be in a place to join the game properly. right now, it isnt IMO. am trying ubuntu at the mo and it is better than i expected tbh but not enough for my parents (who are the level OSs need to be aimed at really).

3 big players in the game would be great tho.
 
Hades said:
I'm sure that's what people said of IBM's hardware dominance in the 80's. Nowadays they are moving more and more towards software and consultancy. Personally I'd expect at least one major new player in the next 8 to 10 years.


IBM shifted from hardware for very different reasons, if it hadnt of done then IBM would be a broken shell of its former self as its markets were drying up extreamly quickly, although its still got its feet in main frames :)
 
Just found this:

"National Semiconductor distanced itself from the CPU market, and without direction, the Cyrix engineers left one by one. By the time National Semiconductor sold Cyrix to VIA Technologies, the design team was no more and the market for the MII had disappeared. VIA used the Cyrix name on a chip designed by Centaur Technology, since VIA believed Cyrix had better name recognition than Centaur, or possibly even VIA."
 
Zogger said:
old-ish thread but google will blatantly buy one of these companies and start competing in the budget market. ;)

thats not a joke lol

i think it's a good idea having lots of companies competing with each other

the fact AMD own ATI is a bad move IMO, it makes you wonder if AMD r going to turn like old Apple, and then we'll only have intel in PC's...
 
Slenpree said:
thats not a joke lol

i think it's a good idea having lots of companies competing with each other

the fact AMD own ATI is a bad move IMO, it makes you wonder if AMD r going to turn like old Apple, and then we'll only have intel in PC's...


Dont really see how you can compare Apple to AMD myself - two completely seperate ball games in my opinion.

AMD aint going anywhere - they will remain in all areas of PC architechture, and could even expand into mobile units ( aka PDA's etc) - until very recently Apple Mac's etc where really only widely known to photoshoppers etc for media creation - now that intel have started powering them they will get a lot more interest.

AMD on the other hand already had a wide user base (even if not quite so much in general corporate areas - although JP Morgan and other investment banks have used AMD opteron servers and blades for a few years already).

Competition is good though and drives the market place forward , as stated above IBM wont be (re) entering the standard hardware market again for some time to come after selling off their PC and laptop devisions
 
20 years from now is a long time. We might all be running bio-tech computers by then and the whole silicon thing will be so last century. ;)
 
Dureth said:
20 years from now is a long time. We might all be running bio-tech computers by then and the whole silicon thing will be so last century. ;)


You may well be right - but only a very few companies could invest the required amount of $$$ into the research ...... unless something unforeseen just appears from nowhere and imediately sets the engineers imaginations going
 
FrankJH said:
You may well be right - but only a very few companies could invest the required amount of $$$ into the research ...... unless something unforeseen just appears from nowhere and imediately sets the engineers imaginations going
as with all these things, I'm guessing the initial investment will be driven by the arms market.
 
VeNT said:
as with all these things, I'm guessing the initial investment will be driven by the arms market.

Yeah, Bush will soon realise that we need a supercomputer atleast a hundred times as powerful as today's fastest to calculate the amount of people killed in Iraq as a result of his idiocy.
 
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