He lives or will have lived with them.
Compulsory national service
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He lives or will have lived with them.
Soldato
who needs facts an figures when you have personal experience
Soldato
Even still...... well maybe im over sensitive, im a bit of a armed forces fan boy granted but what they may lack in social skills they more than make up for with courage and other smarts
It does take a special kind of smarts to convince teenage girls to be taken back to a barracks to have a train run on them, I agree
Soldato
Soldato
its not a dig at armed forces, its just a simple case of this lifestyle attracts a certain type personality... the majority of my "collegues" are complete *****, but we love each other for it!
Man of Honour
I have worked and lived with many members of the forces for a few years now...
and courage?! What is this thing you speak of? For a forces fanboy you seem to know little about how many whining, swerving, selfish douchebags that make up our ranks.
Soldato
So not even in the armed forces then?
Nope never served but i grew up on Blandford Forum army base as my step father was in the Royal Signals.
I have great respect for the British Armed Forces and get on my high horse if i think somebody is giving them stick lol.
I know! Bloody disrespectful! Doesn't everyone know that they are all heroes? The way people treat heroes nowadays is disgusting.
its not a dig at armed forces, its just a simple case of this lifestyle attracts a certain type personality... the majority of my "collegues" are complete *****, but we love each other for it!
I think it's just a case of when you stick a bunch of young adults in a male dominent enviroment for a length of time and put them through a load of **** they'll always behave like we do.
Soldato
I don't think we all have that courage, but we all aspire and probably believe that we would be ok doing what people in the armed forces (at least those on the ground) do.
Having said that, some of us object to their activities, myself included, and are therefore unsupportive of soldiers at war, and consequently will never really consider it an acceptable thing to do.
Soldato
What like fine Gents? OF COURSE!they'll always behave like we do.
I'll be behaving like one this weekend, possibly my last in the country for a number of months!
Soldato
You know, you are going to at some point, have to face up to the harsh realities of life. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life.
Or at least once you've finished work at McDonalds.
Hmm would be really crappy to start forcing that on people (unless there was a real pressing need) who are in the upper end of that age bracket many of whom will be well into an established career, family, etc.
Gotta be honest tho I don't think it would be a bad idea for long term unemployed to do a year in something like that within reason.
Gotta be honest tho I don't think it would be a bad idea for long term unemployed to do a year in something like that within reason.
I think it's just a case of when you stick a bunch of young adults in a male dominent enviroment for a length of time and put them through a load of **** they'll always behave like we do.
Young, so anywhere between 18 and late 30's/early 40's? Some of my seniors still haven't grown up I'm sure
.That is a LIE! They do not make up our ranks. They make up the commissioned ranks!
I'm not in favour. We have one of the best trained armed forces in the world, despite severe cutbacks. I'm very proud of and grateful to the people who voluntarily step forward and become a part of that. I wouldn't want to see them devalued to being simple babysitters for the yobs we have in this country.
Soldato
They have this in some smaller European counties. I worked with a guy from denmark who was called into service, i think they have a lottery.
The training they put you through isn't just firing a gun, running and shouting yes sir etc. It specialised training that is well regarded in Danish society. The system is deigned so there is minimal interruption to education and uni was waiting once he'd finished.
He loved it and made good friends, had good "life experiences" etc. It's one hell of a gap year.
The training they put you through isn't just firing a gun, running and shouting yes sir etc. It specialised training that is well regarded in Danish society. The system is deigned so there is minimal interruption to education and uni was waiting once he'd finished.
He loved it and made good friends, had good "life experiences" etc. It's one hell of a gap year.
its both pointless and unnecessary... why spend money on something like that when defence cuts are already being made - increasing numbers in the TA doesn't require compulsory national service
well make it voluntary then - or compulsory for people who are claiming job seekers benefits and haven't found a job after X years....
for lots of other people its just going to screw with their careers... some imaginary workaround to integrate jobs into it isn't going to prevent that... certainly a good way of encouraging highly skilled people to leave the country too - 1st class degree, complete masters, completed PhD... drat now aged 25 and have 1 year left to complete national service... forget about moving into a post doc position and working on cutting edge research you've got to do some charity work or military service.... alternatively move to California, Switzerland and pursue lucrative startup job there instead of staying under a regressive regime in the UK because some conservatives are still jerking off over what it was like in the 1950s...
if you were thinking that perhaps the post doc research would count somehow because you might deem it useful then there is another can of worms over what can and can't count... the whole thing would become a bureaucratic nightmare as there are plenty of roles out there you'd need to cover - anyone who's a non-retard would essentially find loop holes
Its not even clear what problem this would attempt to fix or how it would be beneficial in the majority of cases.