Computer keeps crashing in 3d applications

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R80MAV

R80MAV

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Ive been having problems with my computer for the past few months now, crashing in 3d applications from videos on youtube to running around on crysis. i assumed it was my gpu which was a hd4850 as these are notorious for crashing. this week i decided to go out and buy a gtx460 to try and solve my crashing woes but with no luck, its still doing it :(. to fill you in the crashes started 4 months ago and were few and far apart they started to get more frequent and showed up in more and more games. in that time i also replaced my cpu from an amd athlon x2 5600+ to a phenom 2 720be, doing this meant i had to flash my bios on my asus m2n32sli-deluxe, im not sure if this could play any part at all. so far in my troubleshooting ive ran memtest86 and prime95 both overnight with no crashes or errors reported. temperatures are all fine (25C cpu cores & 27C gpu) hopefully someone can help me with this annoying problem, im gonna be getting a good few games at christmas that i want to be able to play!

System specs
Amd phenom ii x3 720be (stock clocks)
4x1gb (4gb) corsair xms2 ddr2
Asus m2n32 sli deluxe
point of view geforce gtx460 768mb (stock)
80gb seagate & 500gb seagate
700w jeantech storm psu (sli support)

i have also tried booting up with an old xp hdd installing the latest drivers etc with still no prevail.

here is my dxdiag, not sure if its any help

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System Information
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Time of this report: 12/23/2010, 02:43:45
Machine name: MAV-PC
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.vistasp2_gdr.100608-0458)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
System Model: System Product Name
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) II X3 720 Processor (3 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
Memory: 4094MB RAM
Page File: 3220MB used, 5153MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 7.00.6002.18107 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce GTX 460
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0E22&SUBSYS_46471ACC&REV_A1
Display Memory: 2529 MB
Dedicated Memory: 738 MB
Shared Memory: 1791 MB
Current Mode: 1440 x 900 (32 bit) (75Hz)
Monitor: ACER AL1916W
Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um
Driver Version: 8.17.0012.6099 (English)
DDI Version: 11
BGRA Supported: Yes
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 10/22/2010 06:23:15, 12788840 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4D62-11CF-AF6E-4B661FC2C535}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0E22
SubSys ID: 0x46471ACC
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C ModeVC1_C ModeWMV9_C
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{6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
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DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled

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Sound Devices
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Description: Speakers (SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio)
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_11D4&DEV_198B&SUBSYS_104381F6&REV_1004
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: ADIHdAud.sys
Driver Version: 6.10.0002.6110 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
Date and Size: 1/16/2007 10:36:20, 411648 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: AnalogDevices
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0xF1F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

Description: SPDIF Interface (SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio)
Default Sound Playback: No
Default Voice Playback: No
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_11D4&DEV_198B&SUBSYS_104381F6&REV_1004
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: ADIHdAud.sys
Driver Version: 6.10.0002.6110 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
Date and Size: 1/16/2007 10:36:20, 411648 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: AnalogDevices
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0xF1F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
 
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What error codes do the crashes produce? Look in the event viewer (type eventvwr into start/run) - windows logs - System. Critical events should be highlighted with red or yellow marks. Look for bsod crash codes, eg 0x00000008

First step, see what codes your getting and google them for further information.

If that doesnt help, locate the mini memory dumps and we can debug them.
 
Just looking now, and cant find any bsod crashes.
These are the ones i found from yesterday:

The shadow copies of volume C: were deleted because the shadow copy storage could not grow in time. Consider reducing the IO load on the system or choose a shadow copy storage volume that is not being shadow copied.

The Security Bios Management service failed to start due to the following error:
The system cannot find the file specified.

The DNS proxy agent was unable to allocate 0 bytes of memory. This may indicate that the system is low on virtual memory, or that the memory manager has encountered an internal error.

im currently in the process of getting the microsoft debugging software, will post when its all done. thanks for your help!

Okay here is what i got from the debugger, it seems its something to do with old ati drivers? could be wrong im fairly clueless.

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* *
* Bugcheck Analysis *
* *
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Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.

BugCheck 117, {fffffa800a7934e0, fffffa600377bfb8, 0, 0}

Unable to load image atikmpag.sys, Win32 error 0n2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for atikmpag.sys
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for atikmpag.sys
Probably caused by : atikmpag.sys ( atikmpag+6fb8 )

Followup: MachineOwner
 
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today i updated the bios to the new 5002 version, and tried taking various sticks of ram out etc but with no difference. would it be possibly the cpu causing these problems, ive never heard of a cpu malfunctioning before, but im trying to strike things off the list. i also got driversweeper to get rid of the ati drivers as i was unsatisfied with the results from driver cleaner pro.
Went into the bios to set memory timings to the actual timings 4-4-4-12 as opposed to 5-5-5-15 that it was on, got about 40 minutes into assasins creed 2 before the first freeze, honestly thought it was all okay.

crashes seem to be getting more and more frequent in vista e.g not only happening in games, but this could have something to do with the stupid amounts of software updates and fixs ive been trying to do this week? ive now gone back to my xp hdd seems easier to navigate round with it being pretty much os only, but it still crashes in games :\
 
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