Confused on HDR

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looking at buying a new 4k tv and was looking at hdr capable sets.
Seems to be quite a bit of confusion as to what actually is hdr.
I was looking at these two:
http://www.samsung.com/uk/tv/KU6100/
http://www.lg.com/uk/tvs/lg-49UH770V

Both seem to have hdr but only the Samsung has the certified Ultra HD logo, or is this to do with 4k rather than hdr?
I prefer the LG but dom't want to buy something out of spec.
 
OK, thanks.
Looks like I need to up the budget a bit.
The LG is HDR10 and Dolby Vision, but reviews are showing backlight issues so perhaps best to steer clear!
 
The LG did look good on paper but there were several reports of contrast and blacks not being good due to the type of backlight and it being an IPS panel.
I guess it's all relative if that is being compared to a significantly more expensive/advanced set.

Have you noticed any issues using it with dark scenes?
 
The blacks are not the best, I've got a B6V OLED downstairs though so anything non OLED looks like a shade of grey to me! For the money, I think it's a really good TV, the picture is very good and I've watched a few 4K programmes and been very impressed. The webOS and magic remote are excellent as well. If you can stretch for the extra, I'd get the KS7000 but the LG is by no means a poor TV
 
55" is too big for me!!!
The KS7000 has the same problem, and is really more than I want to spend - it's typically £300 more than the LG or Samsung.
49" is the biggest I want really. My current Samsung is only 37".
Might have to re-evaluate priorities, and maybe just go for 4k and not worry about HDR.
Main reason for changing is getting one that is 'smart' for use with Amazon Prime etc, and thought I would be best going for 4k as it is now quite common for content.
Maybe I'll have another look at the original Samsung I posted as it seems to be good for 4k, just not hdr as well.
There isn't much hdr content yet is there, even on 4k bluray?
 
4K tv without HDR is not something i would go without personally HDR is one of the main factors i bought a 4k tv.

All the 4K blu rays i have are HDR and more and more content is coming with HDR from the likes of amazon /netflix and even the bbc is working on it.

What is your max budget ?
 
Fair enough.
Budget at the moment is £500-£600, but perhaps I'll wait a bit.
 
Amazon prime/Netflix has a fair amount of HDR content. Im assuming all new amazon/netflix shows will also be in HDR. KS7000 supports HDR youtube too, there is only a few videos in HDR at the minute like showcase stuff but its been awile since it was released so it should start coming soon hopefully!
 
Unless you need the TV now, I'd hold off for a bit.

HDR standards are a bit up in the air right now. Just when we thought Dolby Vision had lost the battle against HDR10, it's trying to stage a come-back and now we have HDR10+ which claims to offer the same advantages as DV. Add in the forthcoming HLG standard which the broadcasters will no doubt use and I wouldn't want to be buying right now. Sure, many of the manufacturers are claiming they'll add support for some future standards but not necessarily all of them. Last year they were all pushing HDR as the new must-have thing but we're already looking at these sets not being upgradeable to Dolby Vision or HDR10+.
 
I have the UH750V LG and it's a cracking tv. i'm sure more expensive setys are better but for the money it's a cracking set. it's also got much better on board sound than any samsung.
 
Seems the 2017 TV's are coming out now which will drive down prices of the 2016 TV's so you might get a bargain soon. Noticed they have lopped off £300 on the price of my Panny DX750 because the EX's are coming out now.

LG are calling their iteration HDR PRO which confuses matters more.
 
varkanoid said:
Seems the 2017 TV's are coming out now which will drive down prices of the 2016 TV's so you might get a bargain soon. Noticed they have lopped off £300 on the price of my Panny DX750 because the EX's are coming out now.

LG are calling their iteration HDR PRO which confuses matters more.
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most 2016 tv's have already sold out. you can't get a 55" ks7000 from any reputable well known retailer any more for instance.

time to buy 2016 tv's was jan-march, april is when everything goes out of stock and in may new sets are launched.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
most 2016 tv's have already sold out. you can't get a 55" ks7000 from any reputable well known retailer any more for instance.

time to buy 2016 tv's was jan-march, april is when everything goes out of stock and in may new sets are launched.
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bit of a sweeping statement. First website I went to Curry's, plenty of 2016 TV's still in stock if you widen your criteria. Depends what you are looking for.
 
varkanoid said:
bit of a sweeping statement. First website I went to Curry's, plenty of 2016 TV's still in stock if you widen your criteria. Depends what you are looking for.
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curry's lol. i did say reputable and well known.

john lewis and richer sounds, etc.

currys is for the sheep who don't have a clue about tv's.
 
Vertigo1 said:
Unless you need the TV now, I'd hold off for a bit.

HDR standards are a bit up in the air right now. Just when we thought Dolby Vision had lost the battle against HDR10, it's trying to stage a come-back and now we have HDR10+ which claims to offer the same advantages as DV.
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HDR10+ is a Samsung only thing as they've developed the Open Source standard of HDR10 and put their own spin on it. I personally can't see it taking off, although Amazon have announced support for it.

Add in the forthcoming HLG standard which the broadcasters will no doubt use and I wouldn't want to be buying right now. Sure, many of the manufacturers are claiming they'll add support for some future standards but not necessarily all of them.
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All manufacturers have announced their 2016+ models will support HLG. I think the real issue is the amount of time it actually takes for broadcasters to start broadcasting 4K HDR content, new standards will already be in place.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
curry's lol. i did say reputable and well known.

john lewis and richer sounds, etc.

currys is for the sheep who don't have a clue about tv's.
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Yeah but Curry's is for the mainstream of people and is well known. Not a lot of people will think of going to Richer Sounds as a first port of call or even know about them. When was the last time you saw a Richer Sounds advert on TV, Currys advertise all the time. You can also get some of the TV's at Richer Sounds also at Currys. Richer Sounds is for audiophiles and techno enthusiasts. Your original statement suggested you cant buy 2016 TV's now or that its not a good time. That in my opinion is wrong as there is stock about and it will get cheaper nearer the time of the 2017 TV's coming out. Anyway this is seriously off topic for the OP so I shall 5.4.3.2.1 cease.
 
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