Connecting to Sky router, is there a better way? Advice please.

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My Sky wireless router is downstairs and generally the wireless connection throughout the house is OK, signal not brilliant but stable.
My main PC is upstairs and also connects wirelessly OK but its no good for gaming as the connection keeps dropping.

I have connected the Sky router via homeplug network to a Netgear wireless router configured to act as an access point. This is in the same upstairs room as my PC.

This also broadcasts wireless with no problems but I use it to connect via ethernet to my PC for gaming as the connection is uninterrupted, the download speed is of course almost halved but I dont think that makes much difference to my gaming.

In order to avoid a "multiple networks" problem I have to disable wireless on my PC first and then make the ethernet connection and then go through the whole thing in reverse when I finish gaming.
I'm wondering if there is a more "elegant" solution to this gaming issue. Be grateful for any views.
 
footman said:
I'm wondering if there is a more "elegant" solution to this gaming issue. Be grateful for any views.
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Run a wire from your room to the Sky router downstairs? I'm in the same situation, wireless signal is excellent, download speed is fast and it never drops connection. However games are inplayable due to high ping.

I connected a wire to the sky router and it was much better. Ping on google.co.uk was 29 average instead of the usual 55

I dont know how homeplugs works but i do know that buying homeplugs and another router would be expenive. Especially as i can just run a wire from the box when i play games, or install one permenantly
 
I've now reached the end of my tether.
When connected ethernet the modem now loses internet connection when I want to view a web page with lots of pictures, ie on this boards photography forum .
Also last night my ping went up to 138! I spent well over an hour on the phone to their support and all they did was try to blame me for my connection problems.

Its time to bite the bullet and go back to Virgin cable whatever the cost.
Wish I'd never left them in the first place...doh!
 
i suspect your access point is not configured properly (DHCP should be off for example, access point IP should ideally be outside the IP range bein issued by the router)

not sure why you need an access point if the homeplug gets the sky internet to the same room why not just plug ethent into the pc and forget wireless?
 
errata said:
i suspect your access point is not configured properly (DHCP should be off for example, access point IP should ideally be outside the IP range bein issued by the router)

not sure why you need an access point if the homeplug gets the sky internet to the same room why not just plug ethent into the pc and forget wireless?
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I take your point about the configuration of the access point but it was done according to the Netgear instructions:
http://kb.netgear.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/965
As I said the wireless was for other users upstairs who were having problems with the signal strength from the Sky router.
 
just got sky BB are these god stats? what speed should i get


System Up Time: 01:20:40
Port Status TxPkts RxPkts Collisions Tx B/s Rx B/s Up Time
WAN PPPoA 26394 33232 0 629 6010 01:16:12
LAN 100M/Full 39399 32730 0 6237 1000 01:20:35
WLAN 11M/54M 3622 720 0 192 38 01:20:23
ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 4091 kbps 510 kbps
Line Attenuation 31 db 22 db
Noise Margin 22 db 23 db



how long until i get full speed?
 
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Quote: "I've now reached the end of my tether. .... modem now loses internet connection when I want to view a web page with lots of pictures, ...Also last night my ping went up to 138! I spent well over an hour on the phone to their support and all they did was try to blame me for my connection problems."


are you on skys LLU service or the 8mb service provided on bt's network? the non llu service is a pile of *£$! - they have massive contention issues and a FIERCE packet dropping/bandwidth limiting/traffic shaping system implemented from ~4pm-11.59.99pm - eg, i would get a low ping on wow (and perfect browsing) untill the very second it ticks 4pm, then websites suddenly start failing to load propperly, constant disconects from wow (and other games) and downloads stalling. the second it ticks the next day - ping drops, connection stable. in extended arguing with sky a drone confirmed that they consider wow (and some other online games) to be "high bandwidth" applications, and specifically traffic manage their packets (read, drop 4/5 of the packets). they also state in the ToC that they opperate a fair use traffic management and capping system during "peak hours"

sounds like your falling foul of this stuff, to be honest
 
LabR@t said:
just got sky BB are these god stats? what speed should i get


System Up Time: 01:20:40
Port Status TxPkts RxPkts Collisions Tx B/s Rx B/s Up Time
WAN PPPoA 26394 33232 0 629 6010 01:16:12
LAN 100M/Full 39399 32730 0 6237 1000 01:20:35
WLAN 11M/54M 3622 720 0 192 38 01:20:23
ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 4091 kbps 510 kbps
Line Attenuation 31 db 22 db
Noise Margin 22 db 23 db



how long until i get full speed?
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When did you start with Sky? For the first few days they say they put you on DLM:
http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/sky-dlm/

What downstream did Sky predict for your line? Your noise margin seems high. What are your router stats through the test socket?
 
LabR@t said:
just got sky BB are these god stats? what speed should i get


System Up Time: 01:20:40
Port Status TxPkts RxPkts Collisions Tx B/s Rx B/s Up Time
WAN PPPoA 26394 33232 0 629 6010 01:16:12
LAN 100M/Full 39399 32730 0 6237 1000 01:20:35
WLAN 11M/54M 3622 720 0 192 38 01:20:23
ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 4091 kbps 510 kbps
Line Attenuation 31 db 22 db
Noise Margin 22 db 23 db



how long until i get full speed?
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Very similar to mine, had SKY installed today, I was getting around 16mb on Be.

Looking forward to seeing if there is a difference with SKY other than the price!

Code: 
ADSL Link  	Downstream  	Upstream
Connection Speed 	4091 kbps 	510 kbps
Line Attenuation 	23 db 	10 db
Noise Margin 	23 db 	22 db
 
What you are experiencing LabR@t & HarryPainful is DLM, keep the router on for 10 days do not restart it at all & let it run its course, eventually it will increase to what your line can handle.
 
he is little problem for you gurus

router wifi setup wpa

main pc connects wifi ok
ps3 connects wifi ok

netbook booted into ubuntu connects ok
netbook booted into XP HOME it doesn't see any wifi networks or just sits stuck on acquiring address

i get this

Attached Devices
# IP Address Device Name MAC Address
1 192.168.0.2 JAMIE-PC ******************
2 �*@= �) ********************i star'd out the macs
 
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Mine has been pumped up a little now, running at

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Connection Speed  	11259 kbps  	921 kbps
Line Attenuation 	24 db 	11 db
Noise Margin 	13 db 	12 db

Uptime on the router has been 54 hours, I am about 500k/sec down on what I was with Be so hopefully it will increase some more over the next week or so.
 
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