Conroe mobo

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Hello,
Ive dropped the idea of keeping my nforce 4 mobo and wanted to buy a conroe supporting motherboard but I dont know if to get the Gigabyte GA_965P_DS4 or the asus p5w-dh deluxe, i will be overcloking both a conroe and a p4 630 (till i get money for a conroe), my question is (cos my preffernce is asus, i like amercian megatrends bios dont like phoenix) does it have the same vcore drop problems as a lot of asus mobo's and is it better to go gigabyte or to stay asus (been on asus for last 4 mobo's i think) or is there some better alternative??

Sorry for askign something that was asked probably a thousant times but couldnt find much info about the asus one exept the prob that it wont support conroes out of the box. ( dont care as ill use a p4 630 till xmas period)


EDIT: does the gigabyte really have just 1 ide plug? (or am i blind and cant see the 2nd?)I have 2 ide hdd's and one ide dvd-rw, and finally one sata hdd, i need to be able to use them all...
Edit: oh no the asus also has just one, is tehre any way i can keep my 2 hdd's + dvdrw liek they are ( dont want reinsatl lwindows on new pc jyust want all stuff to stay same (drive letter, etc...), am i forced to buy an expansion card with additional ide's?
 
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snowdog said:
...am i forced to buy an expansion card with additional ide's?
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Yes. You can get the Highpoint Rocket133 1-Port ATA Host Adaptor (CC-015-HP) for £16.39 from here
 
id go Asus P5W , Dq6, or any other 975x board .

The ds3/ds4 dont support the intel quad cores that come out in december/january.
 
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Go with the board that will provide you all the functions that you need currently. Both support Core2Duo, either natively or via a bios update, so dont put too much weight on that ability yet as you're looking to use a P4 630.

We don't know what the landscape will be like in 6 months time. On that basis I would not be too worried about quad core support either. Prices should be keen enough by then so that you could be looking at a decent Core2Duo Cpu AND a decent mobo for the prices that you are currently thinking. :)
 
the dq6 is just a bit more costy as the ds4, I can afford that, but has anyone experienced how the asus is like (im forced to buy a ide expansion card anyhow so nvm bout what i said before), i really want a motherboard that will clock my 630 to 3.9 (or higher, i know the chip can do it, some reports it can go upto 4.2 and be prime95 stable for 12 hours, but 3.9 at least since that was the speed i was runnign my 3.0 scott socket 478 at) till december, and near december to be able to clock a conroe/alendalle to lets say amd fx-62 speeds... I dont want the asus to drop vcore more than by 0.03 volts from bios settign when stressed.(perhaps 0.04volt, but thats the max limit, i know some asus motherboards can achieve that, my old p4c800 del. for example )
I am leaning towards the asus becourse i like their bios, and im familliar with all their features and their biosses, but then again i dont want it to go at the cost of overclock performance, if the asus has major vcore drops then no way i want it...
 
The Asus P5W DH Deluxe does have 2 IDE channels.

From a review of the board (link has competitor info):
The JMicron JMB363 supports one external SATA connection, one internal SATA connection and one additional IDE channel so the P5W DH Deluxe still has two IDE channels for existing optical drives and hard drives.
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The Asus P5W DH Deluxe does have 2 IDE channels.

From a review of the board (link has competitor info):
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Thats a relief, still need info about the overclokign part tho ,as i dont like runnign a cpu at stock, yet im forced by a motherboard that undervolts by a full 0.1 volt
 
Elrik

i have to disagree with your statement on quad core. How are these ds3/4 owners going to feel come january when people are dropping x4 cpus in their systems and getting double the power? but theyre stuck with x2.

They will need to shell out for a new board & cpu. And most of these guys are performance freaks u know they will want quad core eventually. I suppose if money doesnt matter they'll be fine with it.

i think paying an extra £30 for a bit of future proofing is well worth it becuase you wont get a x4 board for £30
 
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Elrik

i have to disagree with your statement on quad core. How are these ds3/4 owners going to feel come january when people are dropping x4 cpus in their systems and getting double the power? but theyre stuck with x2.

They will need to shell out for a new board & cpu. And most of these guys are performance freaks u know they will want quad core eventually. I suppose if money doesnt matter they'll be fine with it.

i think paying an extra £30 for a bit of future proofing is well worth it becuase you wont get a x4 board for £30
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NO, in a word.

If you look at the history of "Future proofing", it's mostly a placebo effect for people to feel secure.

I have NEVER swapped out a CPU from a mobo and plugged in another, I've always either by choice OR by necessity done a complete cpu / Mobo transplant.

If it was coming in 2-3 months, my opinion might be different, but 6 months is too far away, remember most of the current boards that support Core2Duo are 1st gen C2D releases. Who's to say that in 2 months, Intel realise that they need to implement a different socket OR voltage req's for a 4 way core. ?


I've just got a E6300 with a DS4 myself, I'm not worried about 4 Core support, C2D has only just come out. Who's to say that 4 core will ship on Jan 1st 2007, and also, is it going to be cheap enough for the masses... ;)


Most "performance freaks" will look to a better board for the o/c potential anyway, so a (currently) brand new DS3/DS4 board will probably look old hat by december anyway, as all the major players release new designs / updated designs.

:)
 
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