Console gaming with keyboard and mouse?

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So then i have been reading a lot about people using a keyboard and mouse for console gaming. Listening to people saying its cheating etc.
Thought i would open a new thread and see what you guys think?

Personally i like the console pad other wise i would go back to PC gaming.
 
I would think you're going to get a pretty conclusive response.

For SP you can do whatever you want but if it's used give you an advantage over controller users in a MP then yes it's cheating imo.
 
Doesn't bother me. With scuffs and other modded controllers around, it hasn't been a level playing field for a long time. Only reason people accept those is because scuff sponsor the players/tournaments to make them ok
 
Mouse and Keyboard allow and experienced PC gamer to aim much faster and much more accurately than an Xbox pad.

It's a blatent advantage and if it wasn't classed as cheating in some respects surely Microsoft or Sony would allow you to simply plug and play with mouse and keyboard, rather than buying a 3rd person piece of hardware and software for it to make your console think the keyboard and mouse is in actual fact a controller.

But tbh, If it was something I wanted to do I would do it anyway! Plenty of people on those Xbox's and playstations need a bashing :D
 
I'd love them to have native support for KB and mouse and just separate the people online depending on their input method. If MS or SONY did that tomorrow I'd be the first in line to buy one.

Now I've tried a couple of the cheaper KB + mouse adapters for the now older consoles and could never get them to work properly as the whole emulating joystick movement just didn't work for me.

As the system stands now though I think its unfair if you use LB+M online as it gives you an advantage
 
bobbyspangles said:
I would think you're going to get a pretty conclusive response.

For SP you can do whatever you want but if it's used give you an advantage over controller users in a MP then yes it's cheating imo.
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Not if they make it official and supported.

The only disadvantage you have is not choosing to play with a keyboard and mouse.
 
Thing is, I think they should implement it. But do what they done with UT3 on the ps3. Allow you to properly connect a kb\m but by doing so, only allow you to play with others on a kb\m.
 
It's an obvious massive advantage. Anyone who says otherwise may think they're right but are wrong.

Wouldn't mind it being implemented as long as gamepad users didn't have to play against them.
 
I've always wondered why they don't just sort KBM and Joypad players on to separate servers and make everyone happy.

On PC I'm pretty good with a mouse and keyboard but I absolutely suck on consoles with a joypad! Which is a shame cos I love the comfort of console gaming using a joypad :(
 
If i want to play mouse and keyboard i use my gaming pc, if i want to sit on the sofa and chill out as as such i put the ps4 on with the Pad, why on earth would anyone want to crouch on a low table with mouse and keyboard for a console is just silly.
 
Does having a wheel for racing games = cheating too?

Does playing fighting games with a controller = cheating?

Does playing fps games with a m+kB = cheating??

There are games which have advantage when playing with s controller too! Imagine playing sonic with a steering wheel and pedals ;)

I think too many console kiddies are very bum hurt when no one is stopping them from playing with which ever combo they want.
 
grudas said:
Does having a wheel for racing games = cheating too?

Does playing fighting games with a controller = cheating?

Does playing fps games with a m+kB = cheating??

There are games which have advantage when playing with s controller too! Imagine playing sonic with a steering wheel and pedals ;)

I think too many console kiddies are very bum hurt when no one is stopping them from playing with which ever combo they want.
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An arcade stick is better for rsi, not performance. At the recent Capcom cup out of the top 16 players ,4 used a pad, and the world's best player uses a pad. That comparison is idiotic.

I've used a xim3 before on the 360 and got an insane advantage immediately. If you're not easily getting above a 7 to 1 ratio with a keyboard and mouse then quite frankly you'd must have some sort of mental issue as the advantage you get from them is incredible.
 
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The reasons in GD were stuff like 60hz against 120hz monitors. Graphics cards, turbo controllers, steering wheels and better kb/m. All of these would either give zero to very low millisecond differences, or are purely down to how fast a persons reactions are. When playing with a kb/m on a console, you could honestly be aiming(not all, depending on the persons sensitivity) anything up to a second before them. Which is HUGE! I really don't think people who don't see a problem in these fully understand the advantage it is over a controller.

Plus I've already said when speaking about it in GD, if it was 100% safe, then I'd possibly use it. But Sony and Microsoft could possibly (if they could find out) instantly ban your console for using a mod. Lot of money to waste. I already know of banned ps4's but I don't know the reason why they were banned.
 
grudas said:
Does having a wheel for racing games = cheating too?

Does playing fighting games with a controller = cheating?

Does playing fps games with a m+kB = cheating??

There are games which have advantage when playing with s controller too! Imagine playing sonic with a steering wheel and pedals ;)

I think too many console kiddies are very bum hurt when no one is stopping them from playing with which ever combo they want.
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This the same tired rhetoric I hear in all these threads, and there are the same stupid people like yourself spouting it off but this time with passive aggressive insults against console gamers.

The wheels are licenced by Sony/MS for use on the consoles, these devices are not, I wonder why that is?

As I said in the GD article, the turbo fire buttons are also frowned upon, I don't care what you do in SP as that's your choice but you give yourself an advantage over 98% of the other users out there in online FPS games, if you can't see that then there's no hope.

Why don't you rock up to the CoD championships or Street Fighter tournaments with a Xim device or turbo fire button controller and see how far you get.
 
anticonscience said:
This the same tired rhetoric I hear in all these threads, and there are the same stupid people like yourself spouting it off but this time with passive aggressive insults against console gamers.

The wheels are licenced by Sony/MS for use on the consoles, these devices are not, I wonder why that is?

As I said in the GD article, the turbo fire buttons are also frowned upon, I don't care what you do in SP as that's your choice but you give yourself an advantage over 98% of the other users out there in online FPS games, if you can't see that then there's no hope.

Why don't you rock up to the CoD championships or Street Fighter tournaments with a Xim device or turbo fire button controller and see how far you get.
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anticonscience said:
I'm not upset, but I don't think it nice to call us "console kiddies".

You just come across as a ****.
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Practice what you preach " the same stupid people like yourself spouting "
 
Raymond Lin said:
Well yes, then it's down to your choice then whether you want to bring a knife to a gun fight.
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Aye, but again, using steering wheels or big game pads isn't going to give you that much if any advantage. Steering wheels are more to make you feel like you're actually driving the car, more sim like. People will just be as good with a pad. This isn't the case with FPS's. People seem to think it'll be a 50/50 chance, 1 on 1 against a guy with a kb/m. Where in reality, you'll be lucky if its 25/75.

For the record, I'm not being butt hurt over people using them, I've seen plenty in the 360 days and can live with them, nothing we say in here will stop the other thousand's of people using them. I'm more getting butt hurt over people seeming to think it's not worse than a ruddy steering wheel or other official controllers. If using official pads/wheels have a huge advantage, people would complain and they would be stopped. But their isn't any advantage. Kb/m advantage is huge!
 
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