Console gaming with keyboard and mouse?

I see it the opposite way.

Using a pad is why I don't play online FPS, I feel like I am having one hand cuffed behind my back and not playing to my full "potential".

If they make it official, then it is down to the pad users to learn with a kb/mouse as opposed to everyone else have to dumb down a level or two to a more rigid controller interface. If they prefer a joypad then they will just have to either get really really really good at it.

Like I said, it's their choice, if it is officially supported.

p.s. I can drive much better with a pad, it is much faster to flick to stick to steer than turn the steering wheel.
 
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As I said earlier, that's what playstation done at the start of the PS3. They wanted it to replace your pc by seamlessly connecting your keyboard and mouse, view the web ect and also play games. Unreal tournament 3 allowed you to do this and I thought it was amazing. Was just a case of enabling it in the options and that was it! Like yourself Ray, you say you don't play FPS games cause it's hard as a of gamer to aim, and it is! I know this too well myself. But with something that should be a simple update that would allow people to plug in a kb/m and fire away, could pull quite a few pc gamers away.
 
I've been a PC gamer for years, only now do I try to focus on console and buy titles for PS3/4, there are a tosh load of awesome FPS games that I want to play but I CANNOT play with a gamepad, when I have an option, why should I not play in the way that's easier for me? I don't want to be called a cheater etc just because I prefer playing with different peripherals, just sounds unfair?
 
Only people with disabilities need to use such unlicensed devices, unfortunately ineptitude and stupidity arent disabilities. Cower behind whatever pretence you want to, its what cowards do...

PC gaming has got to the point where is not hard to replicate the console environment while still having the ability to use your preferred input device whatever that is.

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
Tbf the only reason that steering wheels don't have a huge advantage over pads on console is because there isn't really any proper racing sims on it.
 
Only people with disabilities need to use such unlicensed devices, unfortunately ineptitude and stupidity arent disabilities. Cower behind whatever pretence you want to, its what cowards do...

PC gaming has got to the point where is not hard to replicate the console environment while still having the ability to use your preferred input device whatever that is.

ps3ud0 :cool:

posts like above just sound very bum hurt?

I can replicate "console" env with my pc but I can't play console exclusives on my PC ;) plus I don't want to worry about GFX, CPUs etc for a while.. just buy-install-play.

honestly.. I just don't give a crap lol. I've got a console, I've got the peripherals I like using and I play the game :) if you feel that I'm at an advantage, feel free to contact sony and get me banned.
 
If you wanna publish your PSN details - sure Ill do that now, sure others would too...

ps3ud0 :cool:

and what will you say?

*hi guys I think this guy is playing with mouse and keyboard, can you ban a paying customer please, I don't like the peripherals he's using* ? :rolleyes:
 
I think 'cheater using unlicensed peripherals' suffices - thought you didnt care?

ps3ud0 :cool:

I don't :) but sony will not ban me ;) neither console has a line in their T&C's that says "do not use unlicensed peripherals" :)

you guys kinda make it sound like m+kb = no skill needed. Which is just wrong, I'd controllers have their advantages even in FPS games over m+kb combo and I BET YOU if I played cod etc with console kiddies who believe I'm a cheater I won't be at the top of the leader board ;)
 
I dont see the issue
People should be able to use a k/m on a console if they so wish, just like how i wish to use a controller on a pc
If i played online am i at a huge disadvantage using the controller.... Maybe, but thats my choice!
I cannot use a keyboard and mouse comfortably for gaming, thats why on pc i have missed out on mass effect etc because i only want to use a controller
But then flip that on console, the majority will be using a controller but if you have paid like £200 on a keyboard and mouse and want to use it on a console, then you should be able to.
 
I see where Grudas is coming from. took me a good few weeks to get a hang of it, but even then its still terrible haha. Now, i have stumbled onto something, now this is from the 360 days, but i dont see why it wouldn't be the same here...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/669289-call-of-duty-black-ops-ii/65386209?page=13

Greetings,

I am Xog, a moderator from the XIM forums. I noticed a lot of misinformation about this product. I'd also like to share my experiences with you.

- The XIM device falls squarely within the Terms of Service that Microsoft has everyone agree to on the Xbox360. Your account cannot be banned from Xbox Live. Also, it is impossible for Microsoft or the Xbox to determine if you are using the product, as the xbox is just receiving controller signals.

- It is not a hack. It is not a mod. It simply translates keyboard, Sony Nav, and Mouse movements into the same movements and signals a controller makes.

- The XIM helps people from various categories, ranging from disabled gamers, to PC gamers who have more friends on Xbox than on PC (which is an ever growing problem). For me, I chose the XIM because it allowed me to play online with my real life friends. I'd rather spend $80 to play with them rather than have all of my friends spend hundreds of dollars on computer hardware to play with me.

- The XIM doesn't allow you to move your crosshairs faster than a controller could. On consoles, there are what's called a "turn speed cap," as I'm sure many of you are aware of.

The controller was developed to market the gaming consoles. It helps provide easy access through the gaming peripheral. It was designed for easy, basic functions that anyone can use in their livingroom.

Console gaming has evolved over time, and as you are aware, many things like modded controllers (against the ToS), to Scuf controllers, even the Kontrol Freakz or whatever, all designed to help you play better.

Those products were aimed at those who played in their living rooms, but wanted to play competitively, or have an edge in their gameplay. They all received controversy. "But that gives him an unfair advantage!"

How many of you hardcore gamers use a scuf controller, or one of those thumbstick extender kontrol freekz things? Yet you bash the XIM as if it were a spawn of Satan. (**pets xim**)

I come from a pretty competitive PC gaming background. When my friends were all on xbox, I was mashing away on my PC, using a mouse and keyboard, all by myself, without my friends. Why didn't I pick up a controller?

I have. I played with a controller for quite a while, actually. I hate the controller. If you have the experience of a PC gamer, the control of a mouse is exquisite compared to a thumbstick. It felt sickening, and it was maddening that I was being restricted by such a device. The xbox controller is the spawn of Satan, not the XIM.

If you want to play better, then use a better peripheral. It's not illegal. Yes, Treyarch has pandered to those who whine, to those who don't understand. They have stated that if you use a keyboard and mouse to play their game on consoles, you'll receive a ban - They also said that for Black Ops 1. Nobody's EVER been banned by Treyarch for using this device, not a single time.

The controller is not the superior device to game with. I would absolutely not mind if I played against only other mouse and keyboard users on the xbox. I would be perfectly fine with that - as long as I was able to play with my friends at the same time. I do not use the XIM to get an edge over controller players - I use it for my own sanity. No restrictions, other than the console's turn speed limit. I use the XIM because it's my preferred device to game with - the one that should only be used to game with if you're trying to win - the XIM Edge.

I'm also the owner of the official partnered TeamXIM livestream channel on TwitchTV, as advertised on the front page of the XIM website. We have a team of streamers playing games, having fun, advertising the XIM on pretty much a daily basis.

Anyways, I hope I shed some light on the discussion. Enjoy your gaming, and enjoy smashing your controllers on the floor like I did because it didnt give me the flexibility I really needed.

-Xog

So really their shouldn't be any reason why someone could get banned if the signals are still been seen as a controller. The only downsides i can see are...say if your K/D ratio really is around 7/1, winning all the time could get tiresome haha. The other is say you wanna kick back lying on the couch ect. you would still be awful haha, possibly even worse!
 
So really their shouldn't be any reason why someone could get banned if the signals are still been seen as a controller. The only downsides i can see are...say if your K/D ratio really is around 7/1, winning all the time could get tiresome haha. The other is say you wanna kick back lying on the couch ect. you would still be awful haha, possibly even worse!

No one is going to get banned for using a keyboard and mouse, and those suggesting they would are just delusional.
 
No one is going to get banned for using a keyboard and mouse, and those suggesting they would are just delusional.

Well no, not exactly. you'd have to be completely stupid if you thought you were 100% safe. It's sorta a grey area online. Some say it is breaking the terms and conditions, some say it isn't. IF they could find out you were using one, they COULD ban you. Nobody know. Just because they haven't done it before, doesn't mean they wouldn't.
 
Well no, not exactly. you'd have to be completely stupid if you thought you were 100% safe. It's sorta a grey area online. Some say it is breaking the terms and conditions, some say it isn't. IF they could find out you were using one, they COULD ban you. Nobody know. Just because they haven't done it before, doesn't mean they wouldn't.

My point is that they aren't just going to ban you for it. You'd at least receive some sort of warning at first.
 
I can see both sides i guess, but i my PS4 has been demoted to the bedroom and i only play at night in bed (once the wife has fallen asleep lol)
I used to love pc gaming years ago playing Americas Army and just found there were too many buttons combinations. Using my pad on the PS4 just seems so much easier i guess.
 
- The XIM doesn't allow you to move your crosshairs faster than a controller could. On consoles, there are what's called a "turn speed cap," as I'm sure many of you are aware of.

the difference is the accuracy you have at the turn speed you have set, a controller is a lot more dificult to stop accuratly then a mouse is, i dont agree and feel it is cheating but if they are for honest reasons such as disability they are fine... if people spend extra money just to win at a game i think thats upto them but i would rather play a game everyone is having fun not where the other 17 people think the 18th person is a cheating **** :)
 
The best thing really, is that people who buy these devices to get an advantage, end up matchmaking with other people using these devices because of all the huge wins they get. In games that use the system of course.

I play console with controller because through injury I cannot use a mouse properly anymore, I would love to play BF4 on PC in all its glory, but get massacred using a controller.

It's sad to see so many people justifying using these devices because controllers 'limit their potential', or they 'find it easier on kb+m'. Note to you guys, its an even playing field when people use the same device, you are not special and you do not deserve special consideration because you cant be arsed to try get better using the same device that everyone else uses..... shame on you.

If you like kb+m play PC and be glad of super awesome graphics. If you can't afford a PC then cry more and play fair on console.
 
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